Steven Jones jumps the sinking ship

pgimeno said:
Are you serious?

Or am I a victim of Poe's law?
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Well, rather it's that on a topic rife with claims and nonscientific noise, he actually did rigorous work. He wasn't perfect, but the point is that he was one of the people out there actually trying to cut through all the hubub and apply actual disciplined research to the topic.
 
MG1962 said:
I would totally agree with you - He reminds me of Fred Hoyle - and absolute certifiable genius in his field - Who strayed into other areas and ended up looking like a complete idiot
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Short of him perhaps having early onset dementia its hard to see the author of the Bentham paper ever having done competent work. Its embarrassingly inept.
 
sheeplesnshills said:
Short of him perhaps having early onset dementia its hard to see the author of the Bentham paper ever having done competent work. Its embarrassingly inept.
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As pointed out earlier, there's nothing really wrong with his work on muon-catalyzed fusion in the days before Pons/Fleishmann. Even after "cold fusion" hit the news, Jones was one of the few looking for very low level nuclear reactions (ie, not for power generation) with pressurized deuterium gas and such.

On the other hand, when it comes to the Pons/Fleishmann electro-chemical style "fusion" experiments, Jones' work was pretty sloppy. IF (and this is just conjecture) Jones is suffering from some sort of psychiatric disorder, it would certainly appear that the outward symptoms started to appear around the time of 'cold fusion' hand have gotten worse with his 9/11 "research"
 
Orphia Nay said:
Cheers, Brainster.



Heh, yes, and he's not in the list of upcoming talks, either.


http://www.physics.byu.edu/TalkList.aspx

Dumped completely by BYU? :)
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It appears to be so. Your original link from Jones himself is now dead.

Originally Posted by ProfJones
For further discussion on nano-thermite,

please see my Blog from May 2011:

http://911blogger.com/news/2011-05-1...tc-destruction

My best wishes to the 9/11 truth community. FYI, my main research focus at this time remains on seeking alternative energy sources for the benefit of mankind. See (for example):

http://www.physics.byu.edu/TalkList.aspx?talkID=247
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Scott Sommers said:
It appears to be so. Your original link from Jones himself is now dead.
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Wrong.
If you highlite a post and then copy&paste, long URLs get corrupted. The original link from Jones is still up:
http://911blogger.com/news/2011-05-10/responses-questions-regarding-thermite-nanothermite-and-conventional-explosives-used-wtc-destruction


I thought that Perhaps the talk with ID=247 is now in the past and that's the reason it is removed. But if you go to one of the upcoming talks, for example http://www.physics.byu.edu/TalkList.aspx?talkID=245 and substitute the ID in the URL with a lower number, for example 145, you get the page for an old talk: http://www.physics.byu.edu/TalkList.aspx?talkID=145
So yes, it appears Jones's talk has indeed been cancelled.

SE Jones at least has a brief personal listing in the Faculty & Staff listing under Emeritus Faculty & Staff:
http://www.physics.byu.edu/directory.aspx?personID=36
Steven E. Jones
Retired Professor
Contact Information
Office N373 ESC
Phone (801) 422-2450
Lab Phone (801) 422-4216
Email Send a message
Schedule
Office Hours By Appointment
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You really got to love how the so called experts in 9/11 Truth are just as dogmatic as their street level drones:

"I remain dedicated to facts. The findings as published in the Active Thermitic Materials paper are not commensurate with any sort of 'paint'. The only thing which would explain the findings without nano-thermite would be scientific fraud."

I agree with this statement, SnowCrash; and thank you for stating it clearly. (Steven Jones)
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Of course what Jones like his disciples fail to recognize is the possibility that:

a. Jones & co. are the frauds

b. Jones & co. are incompetent
 
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I don't understand this thread.

Orphia Nay links to a post by Steven Jones that is almost a year old and then tries to characterize it as him "jumping ship"? When in fact his main research focus has been other than 9/11 for quite some time.

I think this thread is yet another needless duplicate of about a zillion other JREF bedunker threads about Steven Jones.

BYU and Prof. Steven Jones revisited
 
ergo said:
I don't understand this thread.

Orphia Nay links to a post by Steven Jones that is almost a year old and then tries to characterize it as him "jumping ship"? When in fact his main research focus has been other than 9/11 for quite some time.

I think this thread is yet another needless duplicate of about a zillion other JREF bedunker threads about Steven Jones.

BYU and Prof. Steven Jones revisited
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U mad bro?
 
:boggled:

Unlike 9/11 bedunkers, there are very few of the well-known 9/11 researchers who are doing only 9/11 research. Most of them have other research interests and/or jobs. You're faulting Jones for this? Why?
 
ergo said:
:boggled:

Unlike 9/11 bedunkers, there are very few of the well-known 9/11 researchers who are doing only 9/11 research. Most of them have other research interests and/or jobs. You're faulting Jones for this? Why?
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Same reason you idiots fault NIST
 
ergo said:
:boggled:

Unlike 9/11 bedunkers, there are very few of the well-known 9/11 researchers who are doing only 9/11 research. Most of them have other research interests and/or jobs. You're faulting Jones for this? Why?
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You;re right he has every right to branch out into whatever kookery he feels he should
 
grandmastershek said:
The post says its from 2/12/2012, how is that a year old?
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Yes, ergo. How is this a post year old?:

JonesFeb2012.jpg


Check your facts for yourself by scrolling down this page:
http://911blogger.com/news/2012-02-...e-study-coming-within-weeks-dr-james-millette
 
Orphia Nay said:
Yes, ergo. How is this a post year old?:

[qimg]http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w194/orphia/Twoof/JonesFeb2012.jpg[/qimg]

Check your facts for yourself by scrolling down this page:
http://911blogger.com/news/2012-02-...e-study-coming-within-weeks-dr-james-millette
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You're cherry picking one post out of several he posted in that thread. The thread I linked to above shows his other research involvement dates back at least a year and likely longer. It's not some brand new direction for him, nor does he appear to be abandoning the work he has done on 9/11.
 
ergo said:
You're cherry picking one post out of several he posted in that thread. The thread I linked to above shows his other research involvement dates back at least a year and likely longer. It's not some brand new direction for him, nor does he appear to be abandoning the work he has done on 9/11.
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Get the straws quickly!!!

ergo said:
I don't understand this thread.

Orphia Nay links to a post by Steven Jones that is almost a year old
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Orphia Nay said:
Yes, ergo. How is this a post year old?:
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Mr.D said:
As pointed out earlier, there's nothing really wrong with his work on muon-catalyzed fusion in the days before Pons/Fleishmann. Even after "cold fusion" hit the news, Jones was one of the few looking for very low level nuclear reactions (ie, not for power generation) with pressurized deuterium gas and such.

On the other hand, when it comes to the Pons/Fleishmann electro-chemical style "fusion" experiments, Jones' work was pretty sloppy. IF (and this is just conjecture) Jones is suffering from some sort of psychiatric disorder, it would certainly appear that the outward symptoms started to appear around the time of 'cold fusion' hand have gotten worse with his 9/11 "research"
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Jones' work was fairly tight at first, but he was hardly the innocent lamb whose work was devastated by P&F. He had his own level of overpromotion that in a way led to P&F's overblown premature announcement. He was also often discussing Cold Fusion as a power source to his colleagues, although not in print. He certainly was not 'one of the first debunkers' of P&F's work as he promoted himself.

Jones tends to only look good because P&F were borderline criminal by comparison.
 
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