The 100% Impossible 9/11 Inside Job

arielflight said:
Wonder why he's not into deep politics anymore?

The hijackers, with degrees in in mechanical engineering from North Carolina Agricultural and Technical State University and urban planning believed they would be successful, without knowing the total incompetence of the U.S.A Military, NSA, CIA, FAA for that 1 day, is why they succeeded ..... Or they did know?
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How was that day different from any other? Please be specific.
 
Edx said:
They, the FDNY firefighters.

Its not possible because then we would see some evidence THAT (what you suggested) is the reason why they thought it was going to collapse when they talk about WTC7.
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You're not making any sense with this response. Assuming, for a moment, that WTC7 was rigged with explosives, how would the firefighters have known about it? They might have suspected it, but I doubt they knew with any certainty.
 
SpringHallConvert said:
You're not making any sense with this response. Assuming, for a moment, that WTC7 was rigged with explosives, how would the firefighters have known about it? They might have suspected it, but I doubt they knew with any certainty.
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The firefighters knew it was coming down hours before it did. So in your world, they knew about the explosives.

In the real world, they knew it was coming down due to fire. They made this determination because they are good at what they do.
 
SpringHallConvert said:
You're not making any sense with this response. Assuming, for a moment, that WTC7 was rigged with explosives, how would the firefighters have known about it? They might have suspected it, but I doubt they knew with any certainty.
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The firefighters knew it was coming down hours before it did. So in your world, they knew about the explosives.

In the real world, they knew it was coming down due to fire. They made this determination because they are good at what they do.
 
LSSBB said:
You'll find evidence proving Al Qaeda was working on it. Since there is no proof that the U.S. collaborated with Al Qaeda, that conclusion cannot be reasonably made.
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Evidence proving that Al-Qaeda was working on or involved with the 9/11 attacks does not necessarily constitute enough evidence to conclude that Al-Qaeda did it all by themselves.

no proof that is that the U.S. collaborated with Al Qaeda regarding the 9/11 attacks. They may have worked with proto-al Qaeda factions during the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan, IIRC.
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No proof that Al-Qaeda acted alone, either.
 
SpringHallConvert said:
Evidence proving that Al-Qaeda was working on or involved with the 9/11 attacks does not necessarily constitute enough evidence to conclude that Al-Qaeda did it all by themselves.



No proof that Al-Qaeda acted alone, either.
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Fine. No less than ten different governments were involved. Happy?
No proof that the US was one of them.

Sorry.
 
Sorry for the question, I haven't had time to scroll back through the replies, but has SpringHallConvert provided evidence that he's stopped beating his wife yet?
 
carlitos said:
No. There is literally a mountain of evidence implicating Al Qaeda. There is no evidence that the US government had anything to do with the attacks of 9/11. You're still asking to prove a negative. If you have evidence implicating some factions of the US government, feel free to present it here. The burden of proof is all yours.

Similarly, I have no "official statement" that the world is round, or that the US government didn't kill Whitney Houston.
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In other words, you don't really claim to know whether or not the U.S. government was involved in the attacks, you just believe and hope they weren't. I'm glad we got that ironed out.

Either way, the burden of proof is no more on me than it is on you. You believe without conclusive evidence that Al-Qaeda acted alone. I don't.
 
SpringHallConvert said:
In other words, you don't really claim to know whether or not the U.S. government was involved in the attacks, you just believe and hope they weren't. I'm glad we got that ironed out.

Either way, the burden of proof is no more on me than it is on you. You believe without conclusive evidence that Al-Qaeda acted alone. I don't.
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Well for me, I haven't seen any proof that the USG was involved. You got any?
 
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Oystein said:
The common claim is rather simpler. AQ dunnit. Period. There is ample evidence that implicates OBL, Atta, KSM, Bin-al-Ship, etc.
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And where were these guys getting their funding and training? Were they a front and/or patsy for a different group of people? Were they unwittingly set up to be the fallguys? How can we be certain?

If you want to ADD an entity to that theory, namely "the government is complicit", the burden of proof is on you.
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The same goes for you. The burden of proof is equally on you to prove Al-Qaeda was the only responsible entity for the 9/11 attacks.

we are aware of no evidence that supports such a claim. Where is it? Don't reverse the burden of proof by demanding that someone prove an arbitrary negative.
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We are also not aware of evidence that supports the claim that Al-Qaeda acted alone, so where is it?
 
SpringHallConvert said:
Either way, the burden of proof is no more on me than it is on you. You believe without conclusive evidence that Al-Qaeda acted alone. I don't.
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Incorrect - if you want to prove to others your belief. Your belief is baseless. Mine is based on all available evidence. I have no evidence they did not work with space aliens. I also have no proof they did. Therefore I do not believe they worked with space aliens. Do you believe they worked with space aliens? Why not?
 
So, if the USG could have been involved we should suspect that they were even if there is no proof they were involved. This must be done because if you believe that AQ was involved, you have to prove it. Since it was proven that AQ was involved, there has to be proof that the USG wasn't involved. For some reason, proof that the Japanese government, the Jamaican government, or Canadian government wasn't involved is not necessary.

Don't ask for proof that the USG was involved however since that doesn't count. Only proving a negative counts.

Thus spake truthytruththra.
 
Redtail said:
Well for me, I haven't seen any proof that the USG was involved. You got any?
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You mean other than the entire Northeast air corridor being left undefended and Washington DC airspace left wide open for over an hour after the first plane hit the World Trade Center? No, not a whole lot.

How about you? Have you seen any proof that Al-Qaeda acted all alone? You got any?
 
Redtail said:
Well for me, I haven't seen any proof that the USG was involved. You got any?
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You mean other than the entire Northeast air corridor being left undefended and Washington DC airspace left wide open for over an hour after the first plane hit the World Trade Center? No, not a whole lot.

How about you? Have you seen any proof that Al-Qaeda acted all alone? You got any?
 
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