The Incredible odds of fulfilled bible prophecy
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Helen
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I don't think he ever does. It's a gift: Being funny without ever making a joke.
There is no talk of being met at the border in that link. HItler lost the war in Russia but not before killing 20 million Russians and destroying almost everything along the way.
And why would God want to reward Nebuchadnezzar with a great victory when Nebu. ended up destroying the 1st Jewish temple?
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Fast Eddie B
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DOC, I theorise that Fast Eddie B's apparent hopeless resignation derives from this consideration: if God wanted to punish Nebu by denying him victory in Egypt, that must mean that God wasn't keen on the destruction of the Temple. But then, it occurs to many to ask: why in that case did God allow Nebu to destroy the Temple?
Akhenaten
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If God banishes free will we are just puppets, programmed by God, but that's a whole other "free will" thread.
joobz
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Akhenaten
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Nebuchadnezzar did invade Egypt like the prophecy stated. We just don't know how much damage was inflicted. Like I said, Germany caused a great deal of death and damage to Russia and still didn't win (many more Russians died than Germans). Ali put Joe Frazier in the Hospital during one of their fights but still didn't win. In my opinion this is not a false prophecy given the amount and quality of the evidence we have.
Mister Earl
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You're intentionally ignoring the point. The point is the prophecy failed. I really have to ask you this, Doc. Please don't take offense. Has the fact that you have to lie and misconstrue the truth so often and so deeply ever make you stop and wonder that perhaps there might be a problem somewhere? I'm genuinely curious.
I would think, that if a god were real and his or her religion were the correct one, that it wouldn't be up to the followers to to cover for him and lie through their teeth every time someone took a moment to question some minor facet of it.
God knows what he is going to do, he is going to punish evil. If he chooses to punish the Egyptians, that is not violating any persons free will, they are getting what their free will sinful actions deserve.
He could be using fulfilled prophecies to give us enough evidence to justify faith in Him. There is faith and there is blind faith. Christianity is not a religion of "blind faith" because there is considerable historical evidence as well as prophetic evidence for it.
You have the right to your opinion, I've given an explanation why I have mine.
Akhenaten
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Piffle.
This the actual prophecy, DOC:
Ezekiel 29:19-20
19Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will give the land of Egypt unto Nebuchadrezzar king of Babylon; and he shall take her multitude, and take her spoil, and take her prey; and it shall be the wages for his army.
20I have given him the land of Egypt for his labour wherewith he served against it, because they wrought for me, saith the Lord GOD.
19Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will give the land of Egypt unto Nebuchadrezzar king of Babylon; and he shall take her multitude, and take her spoil, and take her prey; and it shall be the wages for his army.
20I have given him the land of Egypt for his labour wherewith he served against it, because they wrought for me, saith the Lord GOD.
This did not happen, DOC!
You're in the middle of claiming that you do.
Utterly irrelevant.
Your opinion in this forum is worth absolutely nothing.
Let's see your evidence - not for a failed attack, not for an attempted invasion, not for an unsuccessful campaign - but for the complete takeover of Egypt and the plundering of its assets and resources as described by Ezekiel.
Akhenaten
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Free will consists of doing what your demon thingy says or else?
How in the name of Isis is that free?
In what way, while we're on the subject, were the Egyptians sinful?
The big problem with this fanciful scenario is that there aren't any fulfilled prophecies.
You jumping up and down on the spot yelling "Are too!" won't change that.
There's also wilful ignorance, denial of the bleeding obvious and self-imposed detachment from reality.
Which one will you be demonstrating next?
There is no historical evidence for any of the supernatural crap that makes Christianity what it is.
And "prophetic evidence" is just plain meaningless.
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Akhenaten
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DOC;;8065327 said:
That Nebuchadnezzar failed to invade Egypt is not a matter of opinioin. It's an historical fact.
DOC;;8065327 said:
In which specific post did you provide evidence that Egypt was taken over by Babylon as described in the prophecy of Ezekiel?
How do you know it didn't happen, yes this is a difficult prophecy out of many many prophecies, but there is no evidence that God didn't give the land to Nebuchadnezzar. Nebuchadnezzar did invade Egypt like the prophecy said. When Nebuchadnzzar got there he might have just figured it wasn't worth the toll to his army. He possibly could of had the land if he truly wanted it but figured what's the use of winning the war if I only have a few hundred men left. So God could have given it to him (if he wanted it) but Nebu just figured it wasn't worth it and didn't accept the land.
If I prophecize that Mr. Jackson will give his puppy to Joe when Joe and Tom go over to Mr. Jackson's house tomorrow. And I later learn that Tom now has the puppy. That doesn't necessarily mean my prophecy is wrong. Mr. Jackson could have given the puppy to Joe, but Joe didn't really want it, so he left and Tom got the puppy. The prophecy did not fail because Mr. Jackson did give the puppy to Joe, he just didn't want it.
I realize this prophecy is difficult but it is not proven 100% wrong (especially with the fact that Nebuchadnezzar did invade Egypt and left with his army in tack.)
Here is what Wiki said:
Following the pacification of Tyre, Nebuchadnezzar turned again to Egypt. A clay tablet,[7] now in the British Museum, states: "In the 37th year of Nebuchadnezzar, king of the country of Babylon, he went to Mitzraim (Egypt) to wage war. Amasis, king of Egypt, collected [his army], and marched and spread abroad." Having completed the subjugation of Phoenicia, and a campaign against Egypt, Nebuchadnezzar set himself to rebuild and adorn the city of Babylon, and constructed canals, aqueducts, temples and reservoirs.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nebuchadnezzar_II
Maybe when he got to Egypt he just didn't accept God's gift of land and had Babylon and its temples on his mind. He had the free will to accept the gift of land but after being there a while chose not to accept the land.
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