Triumph of the Bigoted, Intolerant Left: Buchanan Fired

When you pretend to have read a political book you haven't, you are a liar and a fool.

The liar part is obvious, the fool part is because there is no such thing as a bad political book.

Even the worst of them tells you things about the author you probably want to know if you are his enemy, and which you SHOULD know if you actually support the person.
 
Robert Prey said:
If you seek to turn off somebody's micophone, you are against him speaking freely, first amendment or no first amendment. Get it?????
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LOL, no one has to provide others with a microphone. Not hiring you to perform on a television show is not stripping you of freedom of speech.
 
respect said:
LOL, no one has to provide others with a microphone. Not hiring you to perform on a television show is not stripping you of freedom of speech.
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Nor does refusing to buy a book written by a racist moron violate that moron's freedom of the press.
 
Robert Prey said:
It's pointless to discuss a book with someone who has not read it.
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Sooooo, Robert. On page 373-74 of the book you suddenly claim to have read, Buchanan quotes a famous columnist.

Who was that?

You are online right now, should take you less than a minute to answer.


Tick tock...



ETA: Too hard to flip open the book and find? OK then, Buchanan also mentions a major thesis of his whole book... what was it?

Ten minutes and waiting...
 
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Robert Prey said:
It's pointless to discuss a book with someone who has not read it.
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Agreed. Really.

Of course this isn't a thread about the book, but about the "Triumph of the Bigoted, Intolerant Left: Buchanan Fired".

You have not made the case that your title correctly describes what has happened (altough I agree with Tricky that even if Buchanan was not technically fired, fired is an acceptable description of what MSNBC did).
Nor have you provide evidence that the "Leftist Tyranny Triumphant" claim in your OP is even remotely correct in describing wat's going on in the US (media).
Nor have you disproved the statement that Buchanan made racist comments.
Quotes were given, and if these quote are correct and not taken out of context, they are quite damning (imo).

Can you please adress the claims of your OP, and the question of racism in Buchanan's statements, without hiding behind the irrelevant question about who has read the book?
 
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crimresearch said:
Sooooo, Robert. On page 373-74 of the book you suddenly claim to have read, Buchanan quotes a famous columnist.

Who was that?

You are online right now, should take you less than a minute to answer.


Tick tock...



ETA: Too hard to flip open the book and find? OK then, Buchanan also mentions a major thesis of his whole book... what was it?

Ten minutes and waiting...
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An infantile first question. The book I did read resides in the library. As to the second --
Balkanization. Know what it means?
 
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Firestone said:
Agreed. Really.

Of course this isn't a thread about the book, but about the "Triumph of the Bigoted, Intolerant Left: Buchanan Fired".

You have not made the case that your title correctly describes what has happened (altough I agree with Tricky that even if Buchanan was not technically fired, fired is an acceptable description of what MSNBC did).
Nor have you provide evidence that the "Leftist Tyranny Triumphant" claim in your OP is even remotely correct in describing wat's going on in the US (media).
Nor have you disproved the statement that Buchanan made racist comments.
Quotes were given, and if these quote are correct and not taken out of context, they are quite damning (imo).

Can you please adress the claims of your OP, and the question of racism in Buchanan's statements, without hiding behind the irrelevant question about who has read the book?
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What "racism"???
 
Robert Prey said:
What "racism"???
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If the drooling moron states again, in any manner, his assertion that inter-racial marriage is a form of genocide,, he is inexcusably racist and deserves every expression of scorn, disgust and derision directed his way and demonstrates a profound lack of understanding of simple biology.

Does that stupid SOB think that any group which has living, reproducing offspring is going extinct?

Dude's a total schmuck.
 
leftysergeant said:
If the drooling moron states again, in any manner, his assertion that inter-racial marriage is a form of genocide,, he is inexcusably racist and deserves every expression of scorn, disgust and derision directed his way and demonstrates a profound lack of understanding of simple biology.
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So, you say Buchanan has repeatedly asserted that inter-racial marriage is a form of genocide? That's in his book? You, of course have a source for this? Then what is it? Page number, please.
 
Robert Prey said:
So, you say Buchanan has repeatedly asserted that inter-racial marriage is a form of genocide? That's in his book? You, of course have a source for this? Then what is it? Page number, please.
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I have no time to read something written by some fool I already know to be a total racist dirtbag. I have heard him assert that position on TV.

The bozo was hired to do live TV. He is not entitled to use the company's time to promote his other activities. It's bad TV.

(Not that the way he conducted himself when still acting within his prescribed on-air duties was all that entertaining to begin with.)
 
Firestone said:
This racism.
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There ya go! The maunderings of a sociopath. Not worth wasting time I could better use at the rifle range preparing for the day that the Organization gets froggy. Buchanan's rants seem designed to convince them that the time is now.
 
Robert Prey said:
An infantile first question. The book I did read resides in the library. As to the second --
Balkanization. Know what it means?
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It means you never read the book. Libraries wait quite a while to get pop best sellers on their shelves.

The major thesis he cited on those pages was America's reduction in defense capability.

Something you would certainly have remembered had you ever read the book.
 
Robert Prey said:
Your focus is on Irrelevant minutia.
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Robert_Prey, you're on a skeptic's forum. Asking for evidence for your unsubstantiated claim is not focussing on irrelevant minutia.

But the substance of the book? -- the merits of the book? No. neither you nor anyone else on this board has even read it. Nuff said.
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No, this is what is irrelevant. The employer has the right to deny Buchanan permission to promote his book. That is a true statement regardless of the content or "merits" of the book.

So again, even if I cede your points that Buchanan was fired (even though he wasn't) and that he isn't racist (even though he is), you still have offered nothing to substantiate your claim that he was fire due to bigotry and intolerance.

So what've you got?

ETA: I'm trying to advance the argument along since it's obvious that you will reject any evidence of Buchanan's racism. I'm merely pointing out that it doesn't matter. Your trying to argue that there is reasonable doubt as to whether or not Buchanan is racist doesn't provide any support for your claim.
 
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Firestone said:
Of course this isn't a thread about the book, but about the "Triumph of the Bigoted, Intolerant Left: Buchanan Fired".

You have not made the case that your title correctly describes what has happened (altough I agree with Tricky that even if Buchanan was not technically fired, fired is an acceptable description of what MSNBC did).
Nor have you provide evidence that the "Leftist Tyranny Triumphant" claim in your OP is even remotely correct in describing wat's going on in the US (media).
Nor have you disproved the statement that Buchanan made racist comments.
Quotes were given, and if these quote are correct and not taken out of context, they are quite damning (imo).

Can you please adress the claims of your OP, and the question of racism in Buchanan's statements, without hiding behind the irrelevant question about who has read the book?
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This.

Even if you stipulate that Buchanan was fired even though he wasn't and even if you stipulate that he's not racist even though he is, Robert_Prey still has offered zero evidence that Buchanan's "firing" was the result of bigotry and intolerance.

We've seen a few attempts to tackle this head on, but they were absurd in the extreme. (Some notion that the First Amendment entitles Buchanan to a microphone at this or any other network!)

The fact is, the network has every right to fire Buchanan (or deny him permission to promote his book, which is really what they did). This would be true even if Buchanan isn't racist.

So what we're still lacking is any evidence that the network's decision was the result of bigotry and intolerance. When I look for any evidence of this, I see evidence to the contrary (people with ideology and politics similar to Buchanan's aren't wanting for jobs in the news and "infotainment" industry).

I also see zero evidence to support the claim that Buchanan was blacklisted.

Robert_Prey has made some big claims, but has offered no evidence to support them.
 
What exactly is this leftist bigotry (that apparently controls the entire news and infotainment industry) against? Older white guys? Guys with conservative religious-based ideology?

You'll be hard pressed to support any such a claim since older white guys with conservative religious-based ideology are still over-represented pretty much everywhere (especially in Congress).
 
JoeTheJuggler said:
Robert_Prey, you're on a skeptic's forum. Asking for evidence for your unsubstantiated claim is not focussing on irrelevant minutia.


No, this is what is irrelevant. The employer has the right to deny Buchanan permission to promote his book. That is a true statement regardless of the content or "merits" of the book.

So again, even if I cede your points that Buchanan was fired (even though he wasn't) and that he isn't racist (even though he is), you still have offered nothing to substantiate your claim that he was fire due to bigotry and intolerance.

So what've you got?

ETA: I'm trying to advance the argument along since it's obvious that you will reject any evidence of Buchanan's racism. I'm merely pointing out that it doesn't matter. Your trying to argue that there is reasonable doubt as to whether or not Buchanan is racist doesn't provide any support for your claim.
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The bigotry and intolerance of MSNBC is on parade daily.
 
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