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Rick Santorum opposes public schooling

I am not being obtuse. My whole point was he never said he wanted to get rid of public schools as indicated in the opening paragraph.
No, he didn't say that. I don't think it would be wrong however for someone to infer that is one of the options that he is seriously considering. It makes far more sense than getting the federal govt out of public education and giving public education more local control. The guy says a lot of conflicting and stupid things. Inferring that Santorum wants to get rid of public education is hardly controversial.
 
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2. From your "well referenced" link...Let's see:...A debt increase of $5 trillion in eight Bush years and a debt increase of $3.5 trillion in three Obama years. 5/8 < 3.7/3 last I looked.
That's an invalid comparison. Bush's economic policies left the nation in the worse mess since the Great Depression. It was necessary to spend gobs of money to reverse a bad situation. Now, it is perfectly valid to question whether that spending was done efficiently but as far as I know only a very few deficit hawks argue that doing so was entirely wrong.

So Obama had to increase the debt to stimulate the economy to try to pull the USA out of the recession. In that light, I'd put the onus on Bush.

But this is way off topic. I'm prepared to drop it unless you want to start a new thread.
 
No, he didn't say that. I don't think it would be wrong however for someone to infer that is one of the options that he is seriously considering. It makes far more sense than getting the federal govt out of public education and giving public education more local control. The guy says a lot of conflicting and stupid things. Inferring that Santorum wants to get rid of public education is hardly controversial.

It is controversial. His statements show otherwise. You want to believe it is with no evidence.



Local communities and parents should be the ones who are in control of public education."
"It's one thing for states to help fund public education. It's another thing to dictate and micromanage and create a one-size-fits-all education system in states, and certainly in the federal government what President Obama is trying to do," Santorum said.
When asked what he would do as president, Santorum said he would "get the state government out" and put parents "in charge, working with the local school district to try to design an educational environment for each child that optimizes their potential."
 
It is controversial. His statements show otherwise. You want to believe it is with no evidence.
Would you agree that it is possible for Santorum to hold conflicting views on this subject? Would you consider that it's possible for him to denigrate public education but cover his ass with BS rhetoric? Would you agree that his rhetoric is nonsense? If not to that last one do you have evidence that what he is saying is correct?

One more time, he didn't say the govt control of public education is an artifact. He said that public education is an artifact, right?
 
It is an oft-repeated mantra from the right that "parents know best how to educate their children."
What nonsense. Why do we the require teachers to have advanced degrees? Why must they constantly update and upgrade their training?
My father was a working-stiff pipe fitter and mom was a housewife with a high-school education. They were smart enough to send me to 12 years of quality schooling...
 
Who's to blame?

That's an invalid comparison. Bush's economic policies left the nation in the worse mess since the Great Depression1. It was necessary to spend gobs of money to reverse a bad situation2. Now, it is perfectly valid to question whether that spending was done efficiently but as far as I know only a very few deficit hawks argue that doing so was entirely wrong3. So Obama had to increase the debt to stimulate the economy to try to pull the USA out of the recession4. In that light, I'd put the onus on Bush.
But this is way off topic. I'm prepared to drop it unless you want to start a new thread5..
So, I was right about the spike in deficits after 2008?
1. What policies? How did Bush II differ from Clinton or Bush I or Carter? It's more productive to indicate individual policies and consider their effects. Deregulation began under Carter (Alfred Kahn). Airline traffic boomed. The US Trade representatives under Bush I negotiated GATT and NAFTA, and Clinton pushed them through Congress (with majority Republican support and minority Democratic Republican support). Clinton must have known that this would cost him support. A Democratic Congress passed and Carter signed signed the CRA. Bush II tried repeatedy to get Congess to address the taxpayers' financial exposure. Barney Frank and Chris Dodd blocked corrections. When Bush II had majorities in both houses of Congress and a conservative majority on the supreme court, we did not get entitlement reform, elimination of earmarks, a line item veto, a balanced budget amendment, an end to ag subsidies, or term limits for legislators. We got bloated Transportation Department budgets, a new prescription drug entitlement, the AIG bailout, and the first GM bailout. If memory serves. I may have one or two mistakes here. After 2006, Congress passed and Bush signed, a large increase in the Federal minimum wage. Where I fault Bush I and II, they acted like New Deal/Great Society Democrats. I credit Carter and Clinton where they act like pre-1900s Democrats and modern Republicans (support for free trade).
2. "Spending gobs of money" increases the State's control over commercial activity. Money creation is a hidden (and unlegislated) tax on cash balances. Taxation depresses productive activity. See "deadweight loss due to taxation". If creating money stimulates productive activity, why does the State prosecute counterfeiters and not deputize them?
3. Why was the stimulus not spent where economies had slowed the most? It went to political supporters (public sector unions, auto unions, campaign donors). Apparently, even officials in the Obama administration did not believe their rhetoric.
4. Bush did nothing unusual. That was his major malfunction.
5. Good idea.
 
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So calling public schools an 'anachronism' shows he wants to keep them?

I missed that. That's not even consistent with his other criticism of public schools--that we got along just fine without them for most of our history.
 

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