The Incredible odds of fulfilled bible prophecy

DOC said:
If someone like Craig B has the right to compare Jesus and Alexander in a derogatory way, then I have the right to differentiate them.
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I'm still waiting for you to tell us about any fulfilled bible prophecies.
 
amb said:
Haven't you heard? They named a city after him.
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And they named the capital of Greece (Athens) after the Goddess Athena.

And the Greeks also put some gods on their coins.
 
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DOC said:
And they named the capital of Greece (Athens) after the Goddess Athena.
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Is that supposed to prove that Alexander The Great didn't exist? You are saying that gods and goddesses don't exist. Good,you are on the right road. Off topic. Tell me about these fulfilled bible prophecies.
 
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DOC said:
If someone like Craig B has the right to compare Jesus and Alexander in a derogatory way, then I have the right to differentiate them.
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"Someone like Craig"? What am I like, then? My concern was not to derogate Jesus, but to remind people that evidence for his existence is sparse. Nor have I mentioned his moral teachings in this context. Moreover - and you know this very well, or you should - a Christian is not merely a person who admires Jesus' moral teachings, but one who believes Jesus is God.

I don't think he is God, any more than I think Alexander is God, although such a claim has been made for both these figures.

Anyway, the main issue is your statement that there is no contemporary evidence for Alexander's existence. I have shown that to be false, or do you disagree? Talk of Jesus' teachings is an attempt to change the subject. Socrates and Confucius were also admirable teachers, but not gods. Neither was Jesus. Jefferson mocked the very notion of Jesus' divinity.
 
DOC said:
And they named the capital of Greece (Athens) after the Goddess Athena.

And the Greeks also put some gods on their coins.
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And other things. For instance, owls:

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Are you arguing neither Alexander, nor gods, nor owls exist? :confused:
 
DOC said:
And they named the capital of Greece (Athens) after the Goddess Athena.

And the Greeks also put some gods on their coins.
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You've convinced me.
There is just as much evidence for Athena as for Jesus.
 
DrDave said:
Brown flag!
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Akhenaten rummages about in flag locker . . .



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DOC said:
But Alexander's words never motivated someone like Thomas Jefferson to publish a 60+ page book on the words and teachings of Alexander (or Julius Caesar who was also considered a god by many). Jefferson did publish such a book on Jesus Christ and translated it into 4 languages himself. He described the teachings of Jesus as the greatest morality he has ever read thus higher than Aristotle, Plato, and Socrates, whom Jefferson also read (probably in Greek). Yes, he was not a true Christian in that age of Deism but he held the morality of Jesus higher than anyone else he read.
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Was Jefferson divinely inspired?
 
tsig said:
Was Jefferson divinely inspired?
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At the very least, he was intellectually inspired when he wrote this in a letter to John Adams:
And the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter.
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Come that day!
 
Craig B said:
tsig said:
Was Jefferson divinely inspired?
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At the very least, he was intellectually inspired when he wrote this in a letter to John Adams:

And the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter.
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Come that day!
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DOC said:
But Alexander's words never motivated someone like Thomas Jefferson to publish a 60+ page book on the words and teachings of Alexander (or Julius Caesar who was also considered a god by many). Jefferson did publish such a book on Jesus Christ and translated it into 4 languages himself. He described the teachings of Jesus as the greatest morality he has ever read thus higher than Aristotle, Plato, and Socrates, whom Jefferson also read (probably in Greek). Yes, he was not a true Christian in that age of Deism but he held the morality of Jesus higher than anyone else he read.
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Do you think that's because Jesus's morality allowed owning slaves, and also raping them on occasion?
 
DOC said:
But Alexander's words never motivated someone like Thomas Jefferson to publish a 60+ page book on the words and teachings of Alexander (or Julius Caesar who was also considered a god by many). Jefferson did publish such a book on Jesus Christ and translated it into 4 languages himself. He described the teachings of Jesus as the greatest morality he has ever read thus higher than Aristotle, Plato, and Socrates, whom Jefferson also read (probably in Greek). Yes, he was not a true Christian in that age of Deism but he held the morality of Jesus higher than anyone else he read.
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Have you ever bothered to actually read The Life and Morals of Jesus of Nazareth?

Wolrab said:
Didn't Caesar use a signet ring, or other such device, to literally put his seal on documents?
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DOC's had the Roman use of seals explained to him at least twice before, but given his lack of actual, real, arguments he has to recycle this nonsense.
 
catsmate1 said:
DOC's had the Roman use of seals explained to him at least twice before, but given his lack of actual, real, arguments he has to recycle this nonsense.
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Is there some religious issue here about the seals? What does it have to do with any matter ventilated in this thread whether Caesar signed documents with pen and ink, or whether he dripped blobs of wax on them? Why should this initiate an argument, "real" or otherwise?
 
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