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JFK Conspiracy Theories: It Never Ends

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Tomtomkent said:
No. You showed us how that was so in your opinion. And it isn't direct evidence of a conspiracy. Or bullets from with in the car. Or anything else. Because your assesmnet is ill informed and wrong.

When you have actual evidence, with citations and sources, and evidence of study beyond your own confirmation bias feel free to try again.
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I'm still underimpressed with the debunking that was claimed to be so successful in this thread. Most of the stains on the backseat have been added as a fakery afterwards. It's evidence of a conspiracy. It's not my opinion that the stains on the backseat don't match Jackie's dress. It can directly be seen in the images I posted. You refusal to deal with the subject straight on is appalling.
 
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Anders Lindman said:
Watch at the end of the Zapruder film where Jackie sat down after having been crawling on the trunk and climbing back into the backseat: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aBqRB-DsFQ

And compare with the stains: http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/9039/jfk18c.jpg

Plus compare with Jackie's dress: http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/7015/jfk38c1.png
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So your evidence is what exactly? That she sat back down in front of the blood leaning away from it?
That, the cushioned seat was soft enough for blood to pool after she got out the car?
That she may have, between the photographs, made an attempt to clean herself?
Your opinions on the matter are not validated.

And please explain how got from there to "mind control" and "hidden guns"?
 
Robert Prey said:
The doctor makes no opinion of "entry". A wound beginning here and ending there is obviously an arbitrary observation that has nothing to do with an opinion of where a bullet entered. But Motorcycle Cop Bobby Hargis riding right behind the Limo, got a faceful and a uniform full of blood, brains and skull which hardly points to shot from the rear.
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The entry wound is the beginning of a wound, that is plain as day. Are you now trying to redefine the word "begin"? Doesn't surprise me in the least.
 
Is it possible that Oswald acted alone, but that a conspiracy (for lack of a better word) emerged in the aftermath of JFK's assassination, involving the Justice Dept., FBI and organized crime figures?

Cards on table: I think it probable that Oswald was the lone assassin. But the evidence has been so tainted (principally thru deference to the Kennedy family) that we'll never know for certain. There is enough circumstantial evidence (e.g. Cuban "contingency plans") that post-assassination scenario seems credible.

Guess that makes me a barking loon to half of you, but so be it.
 
Well it would be useful to judge how barking you are by knowing what evidence you claimed was tainted and why?
 
KwamiFabu said:
Is it possible that Oswald acted alone, but that a conspiracy (for lack of a better word) emerged in the aftermath of JFK's assassination, involving the Justice Dept., FBI and organized crime figures?
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'Conspiracy' regarding what, exactly? Or do you mean 'conspiracy theory'? They're very different, of course, the first's ... well ... an actual conspiracy, the second's ... well ... just a theory.

KwamiFabu said:
Cards on table: I think it probable that Oswald was the lone assassin. But the evidence has been so tainted (principally thru deference to the Kennedy family) that we'll never know for certain. There is enough circumstantial evidence (e.g. Cuban "contingency plans") that post-assassination scenario seems credible.
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What do you mean "post-assassination scenario"?

KwamiFabu said:
Guess that makes me a barking loon to half of you, but so be it.
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Only half? That's optimistic. ;)
 
Wolrab said:
The entry wound is the beginning of a wound, that is plain as day. Are you now trying to redefine the word "begin"? Doesn't surprise me in the least.
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I think what Robert Prey is trying to say is that something described as 'beginning here and ending there' doesn't necessarily infer direction. It's simply a product of which part of the thing being described happens to be (sometimes arbitrarily) referred to first. For example, my arm begins at my hand and ends at my shoulder. Or does it begin at my shoulder and ...
 
Robert Prey said:
[qimg]http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/imagehosting/526994ebe72478f327.jpg[/qimg]

The Beginning?? Yeah, right.
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Gosh. A drawing. They can't possibly be in error....

Where are the photographs, film, x-rays or other physical evidence to validate this claim?


Oh right... The conspiracy destroyed it all, and replaced it with ones you haven't been able to prove false. :D

(That has to be right. Otherwise Robert would be plain old wrong.)


Why is that inconsistant with your claimed trajectory of the bullet?
Why is it inconsistant with the other drawing you offer as "evidence"?
Why is it inconsistant with your exploding bullet?
Why are none of your claims consistant with each other?
 
Robert Prey said:
For that shot, more front than right.
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So, the shooter - according to you - must have been standing on or under the freeway overpass. How do explain the fact that nobody saw him despite several witnesses being present and not much cover?
 
I'm referring to the forensic evidence specifically, i.e. JFK's body, which, had it remained in Dallas for a proper autopsy, would have spared us all these theories. Or maybe not...
 
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