BBC now admits al qaeda never existed

So the OP should actually read "Adam Curtis claims Al Queda is a myth in his documentary 'The Power of Nightmares'"?
 
Clayton Moore said:
Rumsfeld is shown explaining mountain fortress(s) of Al-Qaeda.

The US bombed the crap out of it and found NOTHING.

The Brits with their experience with IRA terrorists were going to find Al-Qaeda. The found no Al-Qaeda members and killed no Al-Qaeda members because there were no Al-Qaeda members to be found because there was/is no Al-Qaeda.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-hYorNi0nA&feature=endscreen&NR=1
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And this source is?

A youtube video? What is the data and evidence, please.
 
Oh gee, Clayton has finally caught up on a documentary from 2004. Of course he hasn't seen the whole thing and prefers to watch tiny, easily-digestible tidbits on youtube.

For anyone else, The Power of Nightmares is actually an excellent documentary, though it does get some things wrong (such as the claims in the OP).
 
Saying al Qaeda isn't some huge and well-defined organisation isn't the same as saying there's no danger, though. Adam Curtis, creator of the programme, spelled this out in more detail in a Q&A session on the BBCs site:

Are you saying that there is no threat?

No, the series did not say this. It was very clear in arguing that although there is a serious threat of terrorism from some radical Islamists, the nightmare vision of a uniquely powerful hidden organisation waiting to strike our societies is an illusion.

As the films showed, wherever one looks for this "al-Qaeda" organisation - from the mountains of Afghanistan to the "sleeper cells" in America - the British and Americans are pursuing a fantasy.

The bombs in Madrid and Bali showed clearly the seriousness of the threat - but they are not evidence of a new and overwhelming threat unlike any we have experienced before. And above all they do not - in the words of the British government - "threaten the life of the nation". That is simply untrue.

Are you saying it's a conspiracy?

No. The use of fear in contemporary politics is not the result of a conspiracy, the politicians have stumbled on it. In a populist, consumerist age where they found their authority and legitimacy declining dramatically they have simply discovered in the "war on terror" a way of restoring their authority by promising to protect us from something that only they can see.

I don't think it will last. Already senior parts of the Establishment are beginning to question the very basis of the politicians' argument - that "al-Qaeda" is a threat like no other which "threatens the life of the nation".

Do you believe it possible that the American Neo-Cons engineered the 9/11 atrocity as a catalyst for their program?

No
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http://www.911myths.com/index.php/Al_Qaeda_does_not_exist

Gee, even Clayton's source disagrees with him. This is what happens when you watch youtube and rush desperately to JREF to post nonsense without having a clue what it is you're posting.

Keep up the good work Clayton!
 
I'm beginning to believe Clayton's actually a Poe.

Every time he posts something it blows up spectacularly in his face, making people reading it see anti-semites, twoofers and woofers everywhere as stupid bafoons.

If he isn't a Poe, he is doing a better job ridiculing his own views than any Poe ever could.

:D
 
Moss said:
So the OP should actually read "Adam Curtis claims Al Queda is a myth in his documentary 'The Power of Nightmares'"?
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No, the claim is that the danger of AQ is greatly exaggerated.
The documentary shows a hilarious interview with Rumsfeld, where he talks about underground bunker complexes of AQ. He even had an artist's impression of such a bunker. James Bond stuff, very funny.

Sometimes I miss the Bush administration. Their transparent spin and audacious lying were almost surreal.
 
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Oh, don't mind me! I'm just enjoying Clayton's anti-governmental agenda.
 
Brass said:
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Oh, don't mind me! I'm just enjoying Clayton's anti-governmental Joo agenda.
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ftfy
 
In order for people to believe the stupid **** that the fool behind that documentary is selling, they need never to have heard of a "small cell insurgent organization."

Do the twoofers think I'm as stupid and uneducated as they are?

SHEESH!
 
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