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Susan Lindauer Reveals Facts about 9/11 Warning

shure said:
Susan Lindauer is just another scoundrel in a long line of scoundrel's trying to make money off a lot of well meaning, yet very misiformed 9/11 truther's.

Listening to what she has to say, Susan has all her bases covered in 9/11 conspiracy land and should appeal to a wide demographic...

Blahh, blah, blah, no plane at the pentagon,

Blahh blah, blah, 93 was shot down and the guy who shot it down is in a Florida jail.

Blahh, Blah, blah, There were super duper nano banano thermite bombs on the wtc planes which brought the towers down... Hmmm theres a new one :)


If anyone is interested in reading a good book about 9/11, there are many to choose from.

For instance:

The Eleventh Day: The Full Story of 9/11 and Osama bin Laden, by Anthony Summers, Robbyn Swan

Disconnecting the Dots: How 9/11 Was Allowed to Happen, by Kevin Fenton

Intelligence Matters, by Bob Graham

The War on Truth: 9/11, Disinformation and the Anatomy of Terrorism, by Nafeez Ahmed

The Looming Tower: Al-Qaeda and the Road to 9/11, by Lawrence Wright

Just to name a few.
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I hope you`re not holding your breath waiting for the "truthers" to read these? `Cause to me it seems that anything that isn´t on yootooobe, cherry picked, quote mined, distorted to the unrecognizable by some inane "truther" site, or actually contains facts, it just isn´t worth looking into for the "truthers".

I really found Lawrence Wright`s book very interesting. It makes perfect sense when you get to know the story from beginning to end.
 
minnemouse said:
I hope you`re not holding your breath waiting for the "truthers" to read these? `Cause to me it seems that anything that isn´t on yootooobe, cherry picked, quote mined, distorted to the unrecognizable by some inane "truther" site, or actually contains facts, it just isn´t worth looking into for the "truthers".

I really found Lawrence Wright`s book very interesting. It makes perfect sense when you get to know the story from beginning to end.
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I'm hoping one day truther's will see through all the BS they believe.

Truther's, as do many others not labeled as such, believe there is something very wrong with what we were told about 9/11. Even though truther's in general are very wrong about what they believe to be true, they are right in that there is something wrong.

There is a cover-up concerning the Saudi involvement. The CIA/NSA had the Al-Qaeda Yemen communications hub tapped for years and were tracking the terrorist's. Not to mention Shaffer and Able Danger. The CIA deliberately withheld information from the FBI personnel and thwarted investigations that could have prevented what happened. Especially at the Pentagon since an FBI informant had two of 77's terrorist's living with him.

JREF concentrates on all the stupid conspiracy theories surrounding 9/11. Yet when it comes to the serious issues, most people here will not accept the undeniable facts that there is more to 9/11 than we were told.

So, in a way, JREFer's are just as manipulated as truther's. Just on the opposite side of the fence.

ps: Since you enjoyed Lawrence Wright`s book, you might also be impressed with Summers/Swan's and Kevin Fenton's books too.
 
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I am sure you got loads of evidence for that conspiracy, too, Shure:)

But yeah; knock yourself out; one conspiracy is not worse nor better than another! Have fun! :D
 
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shure said:
Read the books I listed ;)
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Poorest form of argument Evah.


If you have an argument then bring it, telling others to read whole books in order to find out what you meant with your post is a dodge.
 
My above statement is based on the information contained in the books I listed. As well as the joint intelligence inquiry, 9/11 Commission and people invloved in the investigations that I have personally talked with.

You're entitled to your opinion, but the fact is, the truth is the truth. No matter what you believe.
 
shure said:
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There is a cover-up concerning the Saudi involvement. The CIA/NSA had the Al-Qaeda Yemen communications hub tapped for years and were tracking the terrorist's. Not to mention Shaffer and Able Danger. The CIA deliberately withheld information from the FBI personnel and thwarted investigations that could have prevented what happened. Especially at the Pentagon since an FBI informant had two of 77's terrorist's living with him.

JREF concentrates on all the stupid conspiracy theories surrounding 9/11. Yet when it comes to the serious issues, most people here will not accept the undeniable facts that there is more to 9/11 than we were told.

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Serious stupid CTs are you game? Same with Susan.
You are into the stupid stuff, what you think is the real CT, but you failed, like 911 Truth. You are inside the big tent of 911 truth, pointing out what you call stupid, but pretending you have the real thing.

You pushed the most idiotic "stand down" failed logic claim. Does that still stand as one of your plank on your new "more intellectual stupid claim" platform, at the far side of the big 911 truth tent? Poor Susan was pushing a version of your new "more improved" 911 truth delusions. Who did McVeigh live with, talk to, etc... Terrorist's lived with someone? Wow, that is news...

Susan failed, but you are picking up the torch, setting goals, taking action. Good luck. How is that special truther logic "stand down" working out? Would Susan would endorse the "stand down" stuff?
 
Whatever beachnut.

Susan is a LIAR!

I am a guy who wants to know the truth about what happened. I made a lot of mistakes over the years and believed similar type liar's. Oh well, jokes on me, but I'm a better person for it today.

My statement above is factual and no amount of hot head babbling from you can change that.

It is a big deal who the terrorist's lived with because the guy they lived with was an FBI informant. I personally talked with the informant's handler. He told me he could have at least stopped the pentagon attack if the CIA/FBI HQ had passed the information that they DELIBERATELY withheld.

You want to verbally assult someone, go find Richard Blee, Alfreda Frances Bikowsky, Michael Anne Casey, Dina Corsi, or Tom Wilshire.

:jaw-dropp
 
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shure said:
Whatever beachnut.

Susan is a LIAR!

I am a guy who wants to know the truth about what happened. I made a lot of mistakes over the years and believed similar type liar's. Oh well, jokes on me, but I'm a better person for it today.

My statement above is factual and no amount of hot head babbling from you can change that.

It is a big deal who the terrorist's lived with because the guy they lived with was an FBI informant. I personally talked with the informant's handler. He told me he could have at least stopped the pentagon attack if the CIA/FBI HQ had passed the information that they DELIBERATELY withheld.

You want to verbally assult someone, go find Richard Blee, Alfreda Frances Bikowsky, Michael Anne Casey, Dina Corsi, or Tom Wilshire.

:jaw-dropp
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So, what makes your unsubstantiated claims any different from any other internet random making unsubstantiated claims?
 
shure said:
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There is a cover-up concerning the Saudi involvement. The CIA/NSA had the Al-Qaeda Yemen communications hub tapped for years and were tracking the terrorist's. Not to mention Shaffer and Able Danger. The CIA deliberately withheld information from the FBI personnel and thwarted investigations that could have prevented what happened. Especially at the Pentagon since an FBI informant had two of 77's terrorist's living with him.
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I think it is rather uncontroversial here that the several US services and branches tasked with dealing with terrorism had, taken together, enough information, and had some focus on enough perpetrators, to potentially thwart 9/11 ahead of time. However, we generally also accept that sub-optimal sharing of information due to competing objectives, incompetence, bad organizational structures etc. resulted in the terrorists staying unimpeded.

You say that infornation was withheld "deliberately". This sounds as if there was someone, or someseveral, at the CIA who had the purpose of letting 9/11 happen. Is that what you believe? What was the deliberation behind this withholding of information? Can you provide details that would help us decide whether the decision to withhold that information was a bad or even criminal call, given the knowledge, objectives and scope of those who made that decision at the time?
 
In shure's defense, I would like to point out that it is easy for even a moderately intelligent person to begin to see shapes in the shadows surrounding an event such as 9/11.

It is easy to think that an intelligence-gathering apparatus such as we have at our service should have been able to prevent the attacks, and that their failure to do so must be the result of unimaginable stupidity or malicious intent.

I kind of favor the stupidity theory.

This does not, of course, rule out the likelihood that everything that the merry morons did subsequently had some malicious motivation.
 
Oystein said:
I think it is rather uncontroversial here that the several US services and branches tasked with dealing with terrorism had, taken together, enough information, and had some focus on enough perpetrators, to potentially thwart 9/11 ahead of time. However, we generally also accept that sub-optimal sharing of information due to competing objectives, incompetence, bad organizational structures etc. resulted in the terrorists staying unimpeded.

You say that infornation was withheld "deliberately". This sounds as if there was someone, or someseveral, at the CIA who had the purpose of letting 9/11 happen. Is that what you believe? What was the deliberation behind this withholding of information? Can you provide details that would help us decide whether the decision to withhold that information was a bad or even criminal call, given the knowledge, objectives and scope of those who made that decision at the time?
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Exactly, Øystein! Lawrence Wright`s book (that shure claims he´s read) states exactly that; the agencies where all about competition and pissing contests - not cooperating. This lack of cooperation was the one of the reasons 911 could happen.

As for other statements (like taking to the FBI informants handler), are just that - statements, and could be made by anyone. As long as its not backed up by evidence, its of no interest for the debate. Anyone can write anything behind a nick on internet.....
 
Wright touches on the FBI/CIA situation and Kevin Fenton's research expands on the subject.
 
Maybe, like you, he is is not seeing things that are there because you guys are brainwashed from too much Sean Hannity :)
 
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