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Dragon Family lawsuit against the United Nations
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That's not how mind control works as I understand it. The alter personalities are unconscious and the ordinary personality is conscious. Since I'm conscious I'm not in a mind controlled personality. You cannot know if I'm really conscious or not. I can.
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Ok, but that would still only be possible for brief events, not for an entire lifetime, such as the Replicants in Bladerunner.
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The cabal have programmed you with their mind control to believe that, but it is not the case.
No you can't. You have been programmed to think that you are conscious. Your opinion on the matter is not reliable.
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Maybe many of the members on this forum are mind controlled. 
Spooky idea. But it's true that this forum is a bit Borg-like. You will admit that? Like the Borgs in Star Trek with a hive mind. That's a bit of a derogatory statement but let's be honest about it.
Spooky idea. But it's true that this forum is a bit Borg-like. You will admit that? Like the Borgs in Star Trek with a hive mind. That's a bit of a derogatory statement but let's be honest about it.Anders Lindman
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Whoa! Now you are really freaking me out. You know the difference between being conscious and not, right?
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Prove that my posts here at JREF are not your triggers.
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You are certainly showing the classic signs of being under cabal mind control. For example, you have denied being under their control, which is exactly what someone under mind control would do, you claim to be conscious, which is exactly what an unconscious tool of the cabal would be programmed to do, and you have not posted any of the cabal's secret information, and let's face it, the last thing the cabal would allow someone under their control to do would be to reveal their secrets.
How can you expect us to believe that you are not under mind control?
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The better question is whether you can know the difference between the perception of consciousness implanted by mind-control techniques, and real consciousness. Tell me how you would do that, without resorting to an argument of the form, "I would know it when I see it."
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Why not?
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Because then that would create a disruption of the continuity of my experience, unless you were able to program false memory into me, and that would be really advanced mind control, not likely something possible to do via an Internet forum.
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The mind control has programmed you not to notice the discontinuities. It would be a bit pointless if it hadn't.
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JayUtah
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Just like those you admitted to for that given date?
That's what you said earlier that they would do.
That's exactly what I want you to think. The best mind-control subjects are those who not only believe they aren't being controlled, but who believe the required level of control is impossible.
Prove that's not the case.
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That's not what I reacted to. You wrote: "No you can't. You have been programmed to think that you are conscious. Your opinion on the matter is not reliable."
Holy smoke, you must be kidding me. Only I can know that I'm conscious. And it's not something that can be faked. You cannot fake consciousness itself. So when I know I'm conscious, then that's something that's utterly impossible to fake or program or manipulate or anything like that. In fact, that's the whole basis for the idea of solipsism: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solipsism
So when you wrote "No you can't" about me being able to tell for myself whether I'm conscious or not, then that's absolutely ludicrous.
It's true that you cannot be sure whether I'm conscious or not, but I know I am so that's what I meant by having evidence to myself about that. Maybe you meant that my CLAIM of being conscious is no evidence for you to be sure. That's true. So maybe we are just having a misunderstanding here.
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Your repeated assertions that you are conscious are not evidence that you are in fact conscious. They are also exactly what we would expect to see from someone under mind control.
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Think about all the memories from your life. Do you really think someone could artificially have programmed that into you without some sci-fi super technology? The idea of someone being able to program into another person a whole lifetime memory is ludicrous. I think you are joking with me here.
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