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Examples of Freeman success stories

Next time just tell them you dont consent to their non-consent.

It pretty much stumps them, they cant justify why you can ignore them without stepping on their own ideals.

A freemans authourity for his non-consent comes from him and as such lacks force.
Your ability to ignore his non-consent is the law and is enforced by men with sticks if need be.

PS Whatever you do dont mention the word "law" he will undoubtedly have a totally incorrect definition of what it is.
Just use the word "rules"

No it doesn't.
Not even a little. It stumps someone though, that being you.

The requirement for mutual consent in things like commercial or intimate intercourse, is not negated by one party refusing to accept the need for mutual consent, nor is it a function of mutual consent. In marriage, like in contracts, BOTH parties must say "I DO", not just one party who then says "I said I DO, and I do not care what you say!"

Sorry Charlie. Have to be a bit brighter than that.
 
The requirement for mutual consent in things like commercial or intimate intercourse, is not negated by one party refusing to accept the need for mutual consent, nor is it a function of mutual consent. In marriage, like in contracts, BOTH parties must say "I DO", not just one party who then says "I said I DO, and I do not care what you say!"

Sorry Charlie. Have to be a bit brighter than that.

Unfortunatly Rob you are miles away again.
The poster is a debt collector who is in the process of recovering goods and money from a freeloader who has already dishonoured a contract in the first place.

You do know what a freeloader is Im sure of that.
He says I dont consent to you taking my stuff and they say we dont consent to you not consenting.
Simple.
By the way you still need to address the other thread where you have been exposed.

PS Hope daddys OK. You seem to haver forgotten all about him.
 
Oh and for the record Rob, your withdrawal of consent to statutory legislation isnt part of a contract.
The Government doesnt require a contract to govern you mate, it does it by force if need be.
Now you may cry like a baby saying "But thats not lawful" ,unfortunatly for you it is lawful because the government makes the law, not you.
 
Here's another "success" story, in British Columbia no less. Getting a bit closer to home, eh Rob?

(To be fair, the fellow in the story didn't call himself a FotL, or at least, if he did, it wasn't mentioned in the story. However, he did trot out the old bull-puckey about natural persons and soveriegn-granted personalities that is so common to the FotL-ers.)
 
Here's another "success" story, in British Columbia no less. Getting a bit closer to home, eh Rob?

(To be fair, the fellow in the story didn't call himself a FotL, or at least, if he did, it wasn't mentioned in the story. However, he did trot out the old bull-puckey about natural persons and soveriegn-granted personalities that is so common to the FotL-ers.)



Perfect quote:


While the profitability of the venture was clear, its underlying logic was not
 
http://www.courts.gov.bc.ca/jdb-txt/SC/12/00/2012BCSC0067.htm

Here have a read at the judgement, its a real hoot.


Heh. Here are some of my favourite quotes:

Mr. Porisky’s theory not only does not bear any legal logic but it also fails to accord with common sense. It is a failed attempt at word magic and has no validity.

The argument comes down to what the Ontario Court of Appeal in Klundert No. 2, at para. 20, characterised as: “the Act does not apply to me because I choose to have it not apply to me.”

Mr. Porisky’s analysis picks and chooses snippets from various statutes and cases, and attempts to create logical links where none exist. It is, in effect, legal numerology.
 
Nice to see a judge go beyond regular legalese. :D

And that is where rob's **** breaks down. His sheep bust out these long legal magic rituals, and it all gets stopped by a judge raising an eyebrow and giving a big old " Nooooooo....." to the ritual.

It is as simple as that, no. The judge has no group that can , or will enforce these policies upon him, and does have a group that will enforce the policies that the rest of the real legal profession believes in upon those spouting this nonsense. No giant tirades needed, no philosophical ramblings, just a simple denial. When you base your entire philosophy in word magic, don't be surprised when someone is packing a counterspell.
 
Exactly sadhatter,
Blah, blah ,blah, consent , blah, blah...


NO..thats gibberish, be quiet.
Guilty as charged.
 
And that is where rob's **** breaks down. His sheep bust out these long legal magic rituals, and it all gets stopped by a judge raising an eyebrow and giving a big old " Nooooooo....." to the ritual.

It is as simple as that, no. The judge has no group that can , or will enforce these policies upon him, and does have a group that will enforce the policies that the rest of the real legal profession believes in upon those spouting this nonsense. No giant tirades needed, no philosophical ramblings, just a simple denial. When you base your entire philosophy in word magic, don't be surprised when someone is packing a counterspell.

And is just so unfair. :(:(
The courts are using all kinds of long incomprehensible words and now this judge cheat and say that my magic words are no good. :eek:

:D
 
Forgive the duplicate post...

And that is where rob's **** breaks down. His sheep bust out these long legal magic rituals, and it all gets stopped by a judge raising an eyebrow and giving a big old " Nooooooo....." to the ritual.

Dear sadhatter,
That (natural person philosophy) is not my ****, as a matter of fact I have had discussions with Russ where I opined that he was sadly and badly mistaken on his theories. I and many other Freemen reject his theories as flawed. Nor is he one of my ‘sheep’, for one I do not even have any, and for two, he rejected the whole Freeman position as I rejected his.

He has a SIN, and was filling in and submitting their forms and seeking their benefits. We feel we have a right of association, and therefore have a corresponding right to not associate, especially with a number.

For the record, a Freeman does not have a SIN, and does not fill out those forms, for we do not have accounts with Canada Revenue Agency, nor seek the benefits associated with the SIN’s.

If you were discussing religion as a Christian, you would be pointing to a Muslim and their actions or beliefs, and claiming that their beliefs and actions proved that a Buddhists were wrong. Porisky’s beliefs and FMOTL are diametrically opposed.

What you do prove however is how completely ignorant you actually are of FMOTL beliefs. Your inability to distinguish is apparent. Your grouping Russ Porisky’s beliefs with FMOTL philosophy proves it. You claiming that he is one of my ‘sheep’ only shows your disdain for anyone who does not believe as you do. Of course, that will not stop you or others here from labeling ours as false and claiming that your beliefs and yours alone are correct, just like so many mindless and ignorant Christians/Muslims/Jews do when referring to any other religion or belief besides their own.

At least Jon here had the ability and willingness to recognize that Russ did not use ANY FMOTL arguments. At all. Not a single one. To claim that his case had anything to do with FMOTL philosophy is akin to pointing to someone who tried and failed to eat a brick, and then pointing to someone actually eating an apple, and claiming they can’t eat the apple, because it is not the banana you prefer.

The only thing you have accomplished is to prove you have NO IDEA what the FMOTL position actually is, and commenting on it when you do not know it at all, merely highlights your incredible ignorance.
How can you reject something as false if you have no idea what it actually is?

Can you show me a case where someone who does not have a SIN was found guilty of failing to file? Can you show me a case where someone was ordered to submit an application for a SIN and ordered to associate themselves with that number? Thought not.
 
At least Jon here had the ability and willingness to recognize that Russ did not use ANY FMOTL arguments.
Very typical of you, Rob.
To strengthen your argument that sadhatter is wrong you misrepresent Jon's comments to make it appear that Jon is in agreement with you and his opinion differs with sadhatter's.
What Jon actually wrote was:
(To be fair, the fellow in the story didn't call himself a FotL, or at least, if he did, it wasn't mentioned in the story. However, he did trot out the old bull-puckey about natural persons and soveriegn-granted personalities that is so common to the FotL-ers.)
Do you see the word trickery you played there, Rob?
Jon said the man did not call himself a fotl. Jon did not say "Russ did not use ANY FMOTL arguments." In fact I would say that Jon said that this man did indeed use fotl arguments.
If you're going to play these games with words, Rob do try and be a bit more sophisticated when doing so.
 
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Examples of Freeman success stories

just checking in.....
still nothing, huh?

Many of them and more every day, though you will reject them as such claiming they are merely anecdotal. However I have no need to prove anything to you and do not wish to argue with you about what is and is not a success, and what constitutes evidence of success.
 

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