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Obama to block Keystone Pipeline

BenBurch said:
Well, I could not have predicted this. When did he grow a pair?

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012...US+/+Top+News)&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher
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He appears to have figured out that he is dealing with a bunch of unruly children who are going to trash everything to annoy him, so he need not worry about getting them to go along with any of his programs anyway.

He had hemmed and hawed about it for a while just because the republicons were threatening to put the entire ecconomy in the toilet if he didn't authorize the sludge line.



There comes a point when yourealize that a moron is beyond educating or bribing to act right, and you just have to go on and do the right thing without the toad in the road.
 
BenBurch said:
Well, I could not have predicted this.
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It was pretty much a foregone conclusion after Republicans in Congress pushed though legislation requiring a decision before the route changes could be evaluated. He said as much when that legislation was proposed, and is simply following though on what he said at the time.

The request will probably be resubmitted with the new route. It will add extra bureaucracy as the whole approval process will need to start from scratch, so the net result will probably be a 1-2 year delay in the project.
 
Keystoen Beer has proposed a pipeline?

I'll drink to that!

Drat that B.O., opposing everything I think useful and just.
 
"Grow a pair"? :jaw-dropp

I just want to hear him explain this. "Energy independence?" Bzzzt. Carbon neutrality? Bzzzzt. (Canada will just sell the tar sands crude to China.) Oh, how about shovel-ready jobs? Uhhh...no, ten thousand jobs we could have had down the tubes. What Obama has done is a sell-out of national interest for the sake of political expediency. We've seen it before--the Solyndra deal, the Afghanistan withdrawal, the Bowles-Simpson commission. Kick the can down the road, past the next election.

Don't mistake courage for hubris. Obama's just betting the union grandees who filled his coffers four years ago won't bail on him this November. It will be interesting.
 
You know we could probably employ loads of people if we would only shovel piles of asbestos dust into all our schools.

But at some point you realize that maybe a few more jobs aren't worth the cost in lives.
 
BenBurch said:
When did he grow a pair?
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He didn't, he's putting off approving it until after the election, just like before. He'll tell his union supporters to just be patient, while he plays his extreme environmentalist supporters for fools.
 
Travis said:
You know we could probably employ loads of people if we would only shovel piles of asbestos dust into all our schools.

But at some point you realize that maybe a few more jobs aren't worth the cost in lives.
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You really think this will kill people? Better get rid of the thousands of miles of pipelines already crisscrossing the US then!
 
WildCat said:
You really think this will kill people? Better get rid of the thousands of miles of pipelines already crisscrossing the US then!
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Environmental damage need not directly kill anyone in order to still be bad.
 
Travis said:
Environmental damage need not directly kill anyone in order to still be bad.
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What environmental damage? Have any of the other pipelines in the US caused significant environmental damage? Probbaly the closest I know of is the Alaska pipeline melting the permafrost directly under it, but there's no permafrost in the lower 48.
 
This seems like Yucca 2.0. Three years seemingly wasted and now the "refiling" would be a whole new review process probably taking several more years.
 
bikerdruid said:
....tremendous environmental damage in alberta.
we have no business mining the tar sands until it can be done responsibly.
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Indeed, the right way to do it is not to refine the stuff at all.

Build a mine-mouth power plant and just burn the stuff with natural gas to keep the process going. You pulverize the product and blow it into the furnace. Now, the issue here is that you will have like ten times the clinker of your average lignite plant, so the firebox will need to be re-engineered.

Then you run some nice long wires down to the US grid and sell power.
 
WildCat said:
What environmental damage? Have any of the other pipelines in the US caused significant environmental damage? Probbaly the closest I know of is the Alaska pipeline melting the permafrost directly under it, but there's no permafrost in the lower 48.
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Recent leak affecting Yellowstone for a start, that's without having to resort to Google to look up any others.
 
Facebook friends - "Obama is evil and wants to keep our dependence on foreign oil!" So, all y'all Canadians? Apparently you aren't a foreign country anymore - I guess you were annexed into the US on the down low...
 
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