100 million deaths due to capitalism in the 20th century.

[bikerdruid]

Hey Bikerdruid, remember this?



How many do you think the Communists killed?

i don't think 'the communists' (whoever they are), killed anyone.
there were many millions of people killed by murderous autocrats of all stripes, throughout history.
maybe you can quite playing emotional games and deal with truth?
.....probably not....

 

[L.Y.S.]

LYS is an absolutist when it comes to relativism.

You mean I defend no principle which is not universal to all men (human beings). Furthermore, I don't believe in picking sides because both of them tend to be wrong.

 

[The Dark Lord]

Considering that we have tortured minority groups and tried to suppress indigenous populations (in some cases eliminate) up until the 60's, yes.

Personally, I think it absolutely ridiculous to hold people responsible for things that their ancestors did.

Is our society, as it is now, no better than any others that have ever existed?

 

[The Dark Lord]

i don't think 'the communists' (whoever they are), killed anyone.
there were many millions of people killed by murderous autocrats of all stripes, throughout history.
maybe you can quite playing emotional games and deal with truth?
.....probably not....

How many of those millions were killed by communists?

 

[Virus]

You mean I defend no principle which is not universal to all men (human beings). Furthermore, I don't believe in picking sides because both of them tend to be wrong.

Where would you rather live? USA or Nazi Germany?

 

[L.Y.S.]

Personally, I think it absolutely ridiculous to hold people responsible for things that their ancestors did.

Ancestors? It wasn't that long ago. And to be fair it's the same thing your doing to the Russians and the Chinese.

Is our society, as it is now, no better than any others that have ever existed?

No

Where would you rather live? USA or Nazi Germany?

Having dealt the American Criminal Justice system first hand, neither.

 

[bikerdruid]

How many of those millions were killed by communists?

no idea....probably fewer than were killed by catholics.

mind you, the catholics had a lot more time.

 

[Virus]

no idea....probably fewer than were killed by catholics.

mind you, the catholics had a lot more time.

No idea? I'll tell you then. It was a hundred million.

 

[The Dark Lord]

Ancestors? It wasn't that long ago. And to be fair it's the same thing your doing to the Russians and the Chinese.

I don't blame present day Russians and Chinese for the atrocities that Stalin and Mao committed.

No

Yeah we're no better that societies that systemically murdered millions of people. You actually believe that garbage or are you just trolling?

 

[L.Y.S.]

Yeah we're no better that societies that systemically murdered millions of people. :rollseyes: You actually believe that garbage or are you just trolling?

So because I disagree with you for very factual reasons I'm trolling? Not by a long shot. Western soceities are still responsible for millions of deaths either way you put it. If the effects of post-colonialism and ineffective proxy wars don't register then I don't know what will.

 

[bikerdruid]

I don't blame present day Russians and Chinese for the atrocities that Stalin and Mao committed.

who do you blame for the pogroms in tsarist russia, or the massacres of peasants in feudal 19th and 20th century china?

 

[Virus]

So because I disagree with you for very factual reasons I'm trolling? Not by a long shot. Western soceities are still responsible for millions of deaths either way you put it. If the effects of post-colonialism and ineffective proxy wars don't register then I don't know what will.

Where would you rather live? USA or Nazi Germany?

 

[L.Y.S.]

Where would you rather live? USA or Nazi Germany?

I've already addressed this.

 

[The Dark Lord]

So because I disagree with you for very factual reasons I'm trolling?

You could just be dumb or crazy. No way to be sure.

Not by a long shot. Western soceities are still responsible for millions of deaths either way you put it. If the effects of post-colonialism and ineffective proxy wars don't register then I don't know what will.

Prove it.

 

[The Dark Lord]

who do you blame for the pogroms in tsarist russia, or the massacres of peasants in feudal 19th and 20th century china?

The people that did it.

 

[The Dark Lord]

I've already addressed this.

You side-stepped it. Presumably because the answer proves you wrong.

 

[trustbutverify]

Deciding to change the religion you were born into can currently get you executed in some societies. Of course, I would never claim that N. American or Western European societies are any better or worse because that would be judgemental and bigoted.

 

[Virus]

I've already addressed this.

If everything is as bad as the Nazis then that means you yourself must be as bad as a Nazi.

Got you.

 

[L.Y.S.]

Prove it.

Here ya go

If everything is as bad as the Nazis then that means you yourself must be as bad as a Nazi.

Got you.

If that's how you feel, but like I said, I've dealt with the American Criminal Justice system. It's perhaps one of the worst and most dehumanizing experiences I've went through. I felt safer when I lived in the Delta.

 

[Virus]

If that's how you feel, but like I said, I've dealt with the American Criminal Justice system. It's perhaps one of the worst and most dehumanizing experiences I've went through. I felt safer when I lived in the Delta.

You do realize that if you "dealt" with the organs of the Nazi state that you'd be dead?

Can you tell the difference between being dead and not dead?