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Rick Santorum is an idiot, a bigot, and morally inconsistent...

L.Y.S. said:
Wait, why is it important how Santorum feels about blacks agains :/?
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Because he's Typhoid Mary for the horrible disease called "racism". The US suffered tremendously from this disease for many years and though it has died down somewhat, it is still virulent and powerful and can flare up when a powerful strain is injected into society. While it is true that Santorum will probably never hold an important office again, he can still be a firebrand and a carrier for racism, homophobia, mysogeny and other sorts of diseases of hatred that plague civilization. We can only hope that exposure to Rick Santorum, like some vaccines work, will make our people's resistance to such ugly infections even stronger. But that's not a sure thing. He's certainly built up a colony of hate-infected people around him, so there must still be some people susceptible to the memetic germs he carries.
 
He's a viral culture that needs to be rendered impotent by the heat and light of the sun itself so that it will cause an immune reaction in the body politic and wall his toxins in a calculus that cannot be broken down.
 
Tricky said:
Because he's Typhoid Mary for the horrible disease called "racism". The US suffered tremendously from this disease for many years and though it has died down somewhat, it is still virulent and powerful and can flare up when a powerful strain is injected into society. While it is true that Santorum will probably never hold an important office again, he can still be a firebrand and a carrier for racism, homophobia, mysogeny and other sorts of diseases of hatred that plague civilization. We can only hope that exposure to Rick Santorum, like some vaccines work, will make our people's resistance to such ugly infections even stronger. But that's not a sure thing. He's certainly built up a colony of hate-infected people around him, so there must still be some people susceptible to the memetic germs he carries.
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leftysergeant said:
He's a viral culture that needs to be rendered impotent by the heat and light of the sun itself so that it will cause an immune reaction in the body politic and wall his toxins in a calculus that cannot be broken down.
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wow...extended metaphor.
d'ya think santorum is worth the creative effort?
 
Tricky said:
Because he's Typhoid Mary for the horrible disease called "racism". The US suffered tremendously from this disease for many years and though it has died down somewhat, it is still virulent and powerful and can flare up when a powerful strain is injected into society. While it is true that Santorum will probably never hold an important office again, he can still be a firebrand and a carrier for racism, homophobia, mysogeny and other sorts of diseases of hatred that plague civilization. We can only hope that exposure to Rick Santorum, like some vaccines work, will make our people's resistance to such ugly infections even stronger. But that's not a sure thing. He's certainly built up a colony of hate-infected people around him, so there must still be some people susceptible to the memetic germs he carries.
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No doubt, Santorum is a shady character. I had to do an essay on the guy back in my first year of college. I didn't enjoy writing it one bit. With all that being said, other than the contested statement, what is there to directly suggest via actions or words that Santorum is a racist? I'm not disagreeing that he has the potential for racism. I'm just asking where the specific claims are.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
9 controversial Rick Santorum quotes

Nuff said.
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4. Rejecting the very idea of "Palestinians"
Quote: "All the people who live in the West Bank are Israelis, they're not Palestinians. There is no 'Palestinian.' This is Israeli land." (Campaign stop in Iowa, Nov. 18, 2011)
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Wow. So if they're Israelis, shouldn't they have all the rights of Israeli citizenship including the right to move to Israel proper and vote in Israeli elections?
 
Anyone see Santorum on Meet the Press?

He basically promised to bomb Iran.

Also, he claims that Obama called the Ahmadinejad election legitimate (evidence?) and didn't support the democracy movement in Iran (how would you do that?). Then turns around and says we should have backed Mubarak in crushing the democracy movement in Egypt.

FMR. SEN. SANTORUM: . . . The people in the streets were rioting saying, please support us, President Obama. We are the prodemocracy movement. We want to turn this theocracy that has been at war with the United States, that's developing a nuclear weapon, that's, that's killing our troops in Afghanistan and Iraq with IEDS. And the president of the United States turned his back on them. At the same time, a few years--a year later, we have the same situation where Muslim Brotherhood and Islamists are in the streets of, of Egypt opposing an ally of ours, not a sworn enemy like Iran, but an ally of ours in Mubarak...

MR. GREGORY: I'm sorry. The question I asked you...

FMR. SEN. SANTORUM: ...and he joins the radicals instead of...

MR. GREGORY: Wait a second.

FMR. SEN. SANTORUM: ...standing with our friends.

MR. GREGORY: The--first of all, that's patently contradictory. If you say you support democracy, there was a democratic movement in Egypt and the Muslim Brotherhood got elected. So how could you be for democracy in some countries and not others?

FMR. SEN. SANTORUM: I don't, because, because...

MR. GREGORY: Which is inconsistent.

FMR. SEN. SANTORUM: No. The Muslim Brotherhood is not--is not about democracy. The

Muslim Brotherhood are Islamists. The Muslim Brotherhood are going to impose Sharia law.

MR. GREGORY: They were popularly elected, I think. Isn't that what democracy is about?

FMR. SEN. SANTORUM: No. No.
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Hmm, democracy is not about popular elections? Supporting Mubarak is supporting democracy? :confused:

MR. GREGORY: The reality is, there is no good option to disarm Iran.

FMR. SEN. SANTORUM: Yes, there is.

MR. GREGORY: The Bush administration knew that, this administration knows that. Tell me what you would do differently, then.

FMR. SEN. SANTORUM: I put forth a five-point plan that said fund the pro-democracy movement, use covert activities to disrupt...

MR. GREGORY: Which is already being done, Senator. You know that. There's covert activity to, to set back their program by the Israelis, by the United States.

FMR. SEN. SANTORUM: Well, we know by the Israelis. We, we don't have any evidence--if you look at what's being done, most of the evidence actually trails back to the Israelis and the methodologies that they use. There's no evidence the United States is at all complicit in working at that. That's what--I would be very direct that we would, in fact, and openly, talk about this. Why? Because I want to make sure that Iran knows that when I say that Iran is not getting a nuclear weapon, that we will actually effectuate policies that make that happen. This president has not done that. He has opposed tough sanctions on Iran, on their oil program. Why? Because he's concerned about this--the economy and his re-election instead of the long-term national security interests of this country. I would say to every foreign scientist that's going into Iran to help them there's--with their program, you'll be treated as an enemy combatant like an al-Qaeda member. And then finally, I would be working openly with the state of Israel and I would be saying to the Iranians, you either open up those facilities, you begin to dismantle them and, and make them available to inspectors, or we will degrade those facilities through airstrikes and make it very public that we are doing that. The president has done none of those.

MR. GREGORY: So you would lay out a red line and if they passed it, airstrikes by President Santorum.

FMR. SEN. SANTORUM: Iran will not get a nuclear weapon under my watch.

MR. GREGORY: Well, two previous presidents have said that. You would order airstrikes if it became clear that they were going to...

FMR. SEN. SANTORUM: Yes. That's, that's the plan. I mean, you can't go out and say--this is, this is the problem with this administration, you can't go out and say this is what I'm for and then do nothing. You become a paper tiger and people don't respect our country and our allies can't trust us. That's the problem with this administration.
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So there you have it. There will be a war with Iran if Santorum is elected president. He's made it a campaign promise.
 
I have to say, watching this piece of trash crash and burn is going to be entertaining.
 
Puppycow said:
He basically promised to bomb Iran.

So there you have it. There will be a war with Iran if Santorum is elected president. He's made it a campaign promise.
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The funny thing is, if he (or any other President) actually DID order air strikes on Iran, he'd probably get a bump in popularity. Americans love it when we attack other countries. At least, they do for a while. After it get's to be a dragging-on war, their enthusiasm wanes.
 
Tricky said:
The funny thing is, if he (or any other President) actually DID order air strikes on Iran, he'd probably get a bump in popularity. Americans love it when we attack other countries. At least, they do for a while. After it get's to be a dragging-on war, their enthusiasm wanes.
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If we do go to war of any sort with Iran, you can bet that it would eventually turn out like Iraq.

There are other ways to deal with the situation that will not have such negative results. War is not the best option politically for Obama or the USA, nor is it strategicly a good idea.

On top of that, we cannot afford it without a massive tax hike, unless we are ready to accept even more massive debt and the loss of all social services ecconomic recovery programs.

America cannot afford a military moron like Santorum.

Do not buy the BS that the republicons are better leaders in time of war. Ask the Somali pirates whether they would rather face another edition of Bush the Lesser or Obama, especially after the action in the Persian Gulf yesterday.
 
Pardalis said:
And I still addressed all three.
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In case you missed them.

1- what you think you heard is not much evidence.
2- what he might have said in other speeches doesn't prove anything about this one.
3- the journalist misled Santorum.
 
L.Y.S. said:
No doubt, Santorum is a shady character. I had to do an essay on the guy back in my first year of college. I didn't enjoy writing it one bit. With all that being said, other than the contested statement, what is there to directly suggest via actions or words that Santorum is a racist? I'm not disagreeing that he has the potential for racism. I'm just asking where the specific claims are.
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I posted some evidence to that effect here in post #205.
 
@RandFan

Damn shame you couldn't have come up with a harder-hitting thread title. ;)

Why pull your punches?
 
AvalonXQ said:
I wish people wouldn't use the YouTube tags, as the Tapatalk client doesn't process them.
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You can hit 'quote' and the link will be shown, then paste it in 'search' on Google and you'll see the Youtube link as the first hit.

I prefer the ease of a direct link in the post.
 
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