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Crop circle debunking help needed

chuck4842 said:
I happen to be the age of mid 40's. None of my friends, ever, invited me out on crop circle night. If they had, I would've declined, no duh, are ya sure. yep. Nope , not up for it.
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And everyone else in the world is just like you, right?
 
chuck4842 said:
They know you cant make a crop circle like we've seen lately. You couldn't do it with gps or a nasa budget. Everybody knows your fibbing. Care to try?
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Who's "they"? :confused:

Would you like to give an example of a recent crop circle that you believe could not be made by humans?
 
Crop circles are often stunningly beautiful. If aliens made them, I find it hard to accept that its the same gang of aliens that do the famous abductions and anal probings.

Yet, Italians created fabulous art and the Mafia, so who knows?
 
chuck4842 said:
I happen to be the age of mid 40's. None of my friends, ever, invited me out on crop circle night. If they had, I would've declined, no duh, are ya sure. yep. Nope , not up for it.
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How many crop circle makers do you think are needed to account for the number of circles? Have you thought about how likely you are to meet one?
 
Re: people not talking about making crop circles. As soon as the wholesystem became common knowledge, the part of the income of photographers who, surprise, surprise, know just where to get photos the next day, the microlight pilots who take them - and tourists - up to see them from above, the book and calendar publishers, etc evaporates in a puff of smoke.
 
They know you cant make a crop circle like we've seen lately. You couldn't do it with gps or a nasa budget.
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"I can't think of a solution, and if I can't think of one, then surely none must exist, because I am the smartest person in the wooorld!"

Get a grip.

Oh, and if humans can't make crop circles, what on earth suggests to you aliens can? What advantages do they have that we do not that allows them to trample grass into elaborate patterns? Living on another planet?
 
chuck4842 said:
Why not you choose any one you want?
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What about this one?
The biggest crop circle ever made!

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Let the denial begin.
 
I've already admitted some were proven man made and maybe all. Before I was pulled in another subject, we were discussing the odds of all the hundreds maybe thousands of illegal crop circles made, there have been very few arrests. I'm curious to the farmers reaction of this video. He must've given the makers permission.
 
chuck4842 said:
I've already admitted some were proven man made and maybe all.
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Then this was a lie?
chuck4842 said:
They know you cant make a crop circle like we've seen lately. You couldn't do it with gps or a nasa budget. Everybody knows your fibbing. Care to try?
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chuck4842 said:
Before I was pulled in another subject, we were discussing the odds of all the hundreds maybe thousands of illegal crop circles made, there have been very few arrests.
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There has been exactly one arrest.
He was fined £150 and he wasn't caught making the circle, he was dobbed in by a crop circle researcher whom he admitted making the circle to.
However, several teams have been caught in the act by crop circle researchers and followers. None of these encounters have lead to any further action.

chuck4842 said:
I'm curious to the farmers reaction of this video. He must've given the makers permission.
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The farm is easy to look up. Contact the farmer and let us know what he says.
 
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chuck4842 said:
I've already admitted some were proven man made and maybe all.
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which is why you have to give an example of a crop circle that you think couldn't be made by people, not me. I don't know which ones you think are man-made and which ones not, only you know that. So, would you be so kind?

chuck4842 said:
Before I was pulled in another subject,
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No, looking back down the thread you weren't "pulled in another subject". In your post #591, you re-posted the posts of other posters regarding what you believe is the impossibility of all circles being man-made (because more people would talk). Therefore, it is directly relevant to ask you to provide examples of a crop circle that you consider to not be man-made. This is especially so, in light of #595 and #602 where you inferred that I was being flippant and then lying.
chuck4842 said:
we were discussing the odds of all the hundreds maybe thousands of illegal crop circles made, there have been very few arrests.
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Big number of fields, small number of circle makers relative to number of fields. Even in Wiltshire.

Have you ever sat on a hillside at night, over-looking a field where circle makers are making a circle, to see for yourself whether the makers would be visible to you at a distance of - ooh - 700 yards?
 
23_Tauri said:
Have you ever sat on a hillside at night, over-looking a field where circle makers are making a circle, to see for yourself whether the makers would be visible to you at a distance of - ooh - 700 yards?
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If I was a farmer that had been violated, you can bet your aunts sweet pumpkin pie my answer would be yes. Are you saying the makers aren't using lights? They're all equipped with night vision and GPS handhelds with no light?
 
chuck4842 said:
If I was a farmer that had been violated, you can bet your aunts sweet pumpkin pie my answer would be yes. Are you saying the makers aren't using lights? They're all equipped with night vision and GPS handhelds with no light?
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Did you figure out which ones couldn't possibly have been made by humans yet?
 
chuck4842 said:
They know you cant make a crop circle like we've seen lately. You couldn't do it with gps or a nasa budget. Everybody knows your fibbing. Care to try?
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making geometric designs in corn fields isn't very difficult. I've chatted with circle makers, and really all you need is a board and some rope.

Considering that we have a natural explanation for the existence of crop circles (people admitting to have made them), why would we need to invent a more complicated one?
 
chuck4842 said:
Are you saying the makers aren't using lights? They're all equipped with night vision and GPS handhelds with no light?
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I have never read a description of circle makers using light. A cloudless night with a Moon seems to be enough, but some are of course also using hi-tech equipment.
 
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