Rick Santorum is an idiot, a bigot, and morally inconsistent...

Racism doesn't typically just appear in a single comment. You can expect Santorum's beliefs will be discussed in the weeks to come. I'm confident his record and his initial smoking gun comment after the initial misstatement are evidence he did indeed say black people and his denial now is straight from the Rove Political Playbook. Just deny it, people will recall the denial and not the truth if you repeat the denial often enough.

From a year ago:
"...Well if that human life is not a person then I find it almost remarkable for a black man to say 'now we are going to decide who are people and who are not people.'"

The eyebrow-raising remarks aren't the first Santorum has made about the president. Last year he suggested that Democrats were fearful Obama could "go to Indonesia and bow to more Muslims" during an appearance on Fox News. In attempting to walk back the assertion, he added, "I'm saying he has not had his trips overseas go over well here in the United States."
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This one is unconfirmed by me but I imagine the news will be on it soon:
A few debates back, former Senator Rick Santorum candidly stated that racial profiling – using race or ethnicity as a means for enforcement – is an essential, successful, and justifiable practice. Not only is this a direct attack on freedom for many Americans, but it is also a dangerous, illogical, and socially destructive strategy.
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Of course it isn't just blacks that Santorum singles out.
Santorum is scheduled to speak at Penn State University at 8 p.m. on Tuesday. He will talk Wednesday at 5:45 p.m. at the University of Pennsylvania and at 8 p.m. at Temple University. Horowitz and others -- including conservative commentator Ann Coulter, writer Robert Spencer, and Daniel Pipes, a historian and Middle East expert -- are fanning out to speak at campuses from coast to coast.

The Muslim American Society announced it will respond to the "Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week by launching "Students United Against Hate," a coalition to counter anti-Muslim sentiments on campuses and protest "other symbols of hatred and intolerance recently found on college campuses, including nooses and swastikas."

Horowitz, 68, author of several books, including "Unholy Alliance: Radical Islam and the American Left," said the events he has organized are educational.
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And yes, Pard, I did see the longer version of the video.
 
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Skeptic Ginger said:
Racism doesn't typically just appear in a single comment.
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I guess that's a s close as we'll get from you admitting being wrong.

And yes, Pard, I did see the longer version of the video.
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Then why would he be talking about black people to a white crowd in Iowa. He was talking about their lives, and their wellfare.
 
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Pardalis said:
He was talking about black people in Iowa, in front of a white crowd?

You too aren't the most unbiased poster around here... :rolleyes:
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Pot meet kettle. We all have our views, don't we? ;)

In context and in Santorum's own words when caught off guard the next day before he had time to prepare a response:
he might have been responding to a discussion he was having about the Davis Guggenheim documentary "Waiting For Superman," which, according to Santorum, "was about black children."
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You have still not commented on this smoking gun.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
In context and in Santorum's own words when caught off guard the next day before he had time to prepare a response:You have still not commented on this smoking gun.
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He said it himself, he's not sure where the quote is from. He tried to explain something he hadn't time to verify.

Again. Why would he be talking about black people to a white crowd in Iowa. When you see the speech in full, the "black" people remark seems like a complete non sequitur.
 
Pardalis said:
He was talking about black people in Iowa, in front of a white crowd?

You too aren't the most unbiased poster around here... :rolleyes:
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Dog whistle rhetoric. The right wing whackos in Iowa are all upset the Obama wants to take their **** and give it to *******.
 
Pardalis said:
Again. Why would he be talking about black people to a white crowd in Iowa.
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Why wouldn't he?

He was at the very least talking about poor people in front of primarily middle class people. Do you deny that as well?
 
Pardalis said:
He said it himself, he's not sure where the quote is from. He tried to explain something he hadn't time to verify.

Again. Why would he be talking about black people to a white crowd in Iowa. When you see the speech in full, the "black" people remark seems like a complete non sequitur.
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He explained why, he had welfare blacks on his mind. What makes you think he was telling a crowd of white supporters that they were the ones on Medicaid and welfare and they were the ones who needed to quit asking for a free lunch? Clearly that is not how it works. You tell the people you want to support you that "those people" are the problem "we" need to address. It's classic.

Did you hear some version of "Ask not what your country can do for you" in Santorum's comments? I didn't. I heard the Repub lie that it's not about the rich paying their share, it's about redistributing the wealth to the undeserving. You don't say that to "us" about "us", you say it "us" about "them".
 
JoeTheJuggler said:
Why wouldn't he?

He was at the very least talking about poor people in front of primarily middle class people. Do you deny that as well?
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Then explain to me the entire quote and what it means, because it doesn't make any sense.


JoeTheJuggler said:
You mean her providing 3 more examples of Santorum making racist remarks? :confused:
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It doesn't mean that this one is.

I thought this was a skeptics' forum. :confused:

Skeptic Ginger said:
He explained why, he had welfare blacks on his mind.
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No, he was caught off guard by a quote he didn't remember saying. The interviewer probably assumed he did say "black", and Santorum was misled by that assumption and tried to explain it.

I heard the Repub lie that it's not about the rich paying their share,
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Ah, so it's not OK for Republicans to call Democrats "Democrats", but OK for you to call them "Repubs"?
 
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Pardalis said:
There's so much whining about Republicans these days, you'd think they hare in the White House.
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To be honest, they bring it on themselves. The "Tea Party" movement has crippled the Republican Party. They have no clue what the word compromise is, and have no desire to learn.

The Tea Party is killing the Republican party from the inside.
 
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Ah, so it's not OK for Republicans to call Democrats "Democrats", but OK for you to call them "Repubs"?
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After Turd Blossom and the Rushblob and that orange-skinned git from Ohio made such a point of mangling the name of our party, we feel a little hesitant to refer to their in the same way that we would refer to the party that they highjacked from grown-ups like Eisenhower.
 
NoahFence said:
To be honest, they bring it on themselves. The "Tea Party" movement has crippled the Republican Party. They have no clue what the word compromise is, and have no desire to learn.

The Tea Party is killing the Republican party from the inside.
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I have the impression that the way Democrats (or is it the Democratics?) are obsessing over the Republican candidates they are already preparing to lose the elections.
 
Pardalis said:
I have the impression that the way Democrats (or is it the Democratics?) are obsessing over the Republican candidates they are already preparing to lose the elections.
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Pointing out the sociopathic behavior of a pack of sociopaths is not obsessive.
 
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