Dragon Family lawsuit against the United Nations

[Anders Lindman]

Case 1:11-cv-08500-JFK, filed November 23, 2011:

"5. In summary, this conspiracy included:

(a) the expropriation, stealth and conversion by DAL BOSCO of the very same DFFI with which he had been temporarily entrusted;

(b) the repeated and unsuccessful attempts to bribe KEENAN in the total amount of One Hundred Million ($100,000,000.00) Dollars (half of which was to be kept by DAL BOSCO), in an effort to obtain KEENAN's consent to release the DFFI to others without disclosing such theft to the rightful owners of the DFFI, the Dragon Family;

(c) a plan whereby the DFFI would be converted and placed into a so-called "UN Sovereign Program" wholly under the auspices, protection and umbrella of the: "sovereign immunity" allegedly accorded to the defendants by the actions of certain of the defendants, including the UNITED NATIONS and the ITALIAN REPUBLIC; ..." -- http://divinecosmos.com/media/Keenan_complaint_11-23-2011_SDNY.pdf

Blog post by David Wilcock: http://www.divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/995-lawsuit-end-tyranny

Blog post by Benjamin Fulford: http://benjaminfulford.typepad.com/...he-gangster-rule-of-western-civilization.html

 

[Tomtomkent]

Huh? Whuh? Eh?


Could you post some links to something which is:
a) Not sourced from divinecosmos
b) Has some actual facts that can be checked in place of lots of unproven fantasy bull about "secret governments"
and most importantly
c) Was written in the manner that is coherent and does not read like the random dictations of a tramp who is too drunk to fit his lips around the bottle of anti-freeze as he staggers around the bus depot screaming.

Those links contain an awful lot about the claims being made, and absolutely zero about what evidence will "prove" the secret cabal of governments exist, let alone that they did anything.

 

[Anders Lindman]

Those links contain an awful lot about the claims being made, and absolutely zero about what evidence will "prove" the secret cabal of governments exist, let alone that they did anything.

Wilcock wrote in his blog post that the PDF file is from pacer.gov which is an official source for lawsuits, and I trust that he is telling the truth about that.

 

[tsig]

Case 1:11-cv-08500-JFK, filed November 23, 2011:

"5. In summary, this conspiracy included:

(a) the expropriation, stealth and conversion by DAL BOSCO of the very same DFFI with which he had been temporarily entrusted;

(b) the repeated and unsuccessful attempts to bribe KEENAN in the total amount of One Hundred Million ($100,000,000.00) Dollars (half of which was to be kept by DAL BOSCO), in an effort to obtain KEENAN's consent to release the DFFI to others without disclosing such theft to the rightful owners of the DFFI, the Dragon Family;

(c) a plan whereby the DFFI would be converted and placed into a so-called "UN Sovereign Program" wholly under the auspices, protection and umbrella of the: "sovereign immunity" allegedly accorded to the defendants by the actions of certain of the defendants, including the UNITED NATIONS and the ITALIAN REPUBLIC; ..." -- http://divinecosmos.com/media/Keenan_complaint_11-23-2011_SDNY.pdf

Blog post by David Wilcock: http://www.divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/995-lawsuit-end-tyranny

Blog post by Benjamin Fulford: http://benjaminfulford.typepad.com/...he-gangster-rule-of-western-civilization.html

We have spotted the problem:

The entire cause of the problem.

The United States is a private corporation owned by the British Crown (Rothchilds), the Bank of England (Rothchilds) and the Vatican (Rothchilds again). It was previously called the Virginia Company until 3/9/33 when it was dissolved by Roosevelt under the Emergency Banking Act. On 5/5/33 Congress elected to dissolve the Gold Standard and Sovereign Authority of the U.S. and all of its official capacities including government offices, departments and officers. The U.S. is a corporation, not a nation. The Federal Reserve is neither Federal, nor a Reserve. It is a private counterfeiting organization run by Jewish bankers who lend the money they print out of thin air at interest while we keep on paying these criminals to fleece the People.


But you all knew that didn't you?

 

[Tomtomkent]

Wilcock wrote in his blog post that the PDF file is from pacer.gov which is an official source for lawsuits, and I trust that he is telling the truth about that.

Yes, and once more. He discusses CLAIMS made in the case, but not the EVIDENCE. Or perhaps you couldn't be bothered to read what I actually typed. The case makes a claim. What matters is what it can actually prove.

 

[Tomtomkent]

We have spotted the problem:

The entire cause of the problem.

The United States is a private corporation owned by the British Crown (Rothchilds), the Bank of England (Rothchilds) and the Vatican (Rothchilds again). It was previously called the Virginia Company until 3/9/33 when it was dissolved by Roosevelt under the Emergency Banking Act. On 5/5/33 Congress elected to dissolve the Gold Standard and Sovereign Authority of the U.S. and all of its official capacities including government offices, departments and officers. The U.S. is a corporation, not a nation. The Federal Reserve is neither Federal, nor a Reserve. It is a private counterfeiting organization run by Jewish bankers who lend the money they print out of thin air at interest while we keep on paying these criminals to fleece the People.


But you all knew that didn't you?

Again, the "Private counterfeiting operation" is at best an opinion, a claim. I can find nothing in the actual case to back it up with... well... you know... evidence.

 

[Anders Lindman]

Yes, and once more. He discusses CLAIMS made in the case, but not the EVIDENCE. Or perhaps you couldn't be bothered to read what I actually typed. The case makes a claim. What matters is what it can actually prove.

It's a lawsuit. What do you expect?

 

[Anders Lindman]

We have spotted the problem:

The entire cause of the problem.

The United States is a private corporation owned by the British Crown (Rothchilds), the Bank of England (Rothchilds) and the Vatican (Rothchilds again). It was previously called the Virginia Company until 3/9/33 when it was dissolved by Roosevelt under the Emergency Banking Act. On 5/5/33 Congress elected to dissolve the Gold Standard and Sovereign Authority of the U.S. and all of its official capacities including government offices, departments and officers. The U.S. is a corporation, not a nation. The Federal Reserve is neither Federal, nor a Reserve. It is a private counterfeiting organization run by Jewish bankers who lend the money they print out of thin air at interest while we keep on paying these criminals to fleece the People.


But you all knew that didn't you?

Fulford has mentioned that both his parents have a Jewish background, so it's hardly any antisemitic rant, if that's what you tried to imply.

 

[Hawk one]

It's a lawsuit. What do you expect?

I for one expect that a lawsuit has at least some evidence behind it, so that it has a chance of actually succeeding.

And I expect that if a lawsuit is done without any evidence to back it up, it'll promptly be thrown out of court for wasting everyone's time.

 

[Tomtomkent]

It's a lawsuit. What do you expect?

Well, I can tell you what the Judge will expect....

Evidence. And you know what else? Everybody will know what the evidence is going to be as it has to be registered and confirmed by both sides in advance.

So where's the evidence or is this going to be a real short case?

 

[Anders Lindman]

I for one expect that a lawsuit has at least some evidence behind it, so that it has a chance of actually succeeding.

And I expect that if a lawsuit is done without any evidence to back it up, it'll promptly be thrown out of court for wasting everyone's time.

That doesn't sound plausible. Surely it isn't possible to file a lawsuit with baseless accusations and get away with it? Then the legal system could be abused and cause harm to innocent people by false lawsuits claiming all kinds of things.

 

[Anders Lindman]

Well, I can tell you what the Judge will expect....

Evidence. And you know what else? Everybody will know what the evidence is going to be as it has to be registered and confirmed by both sides in advance.

So where's the evidence or is this going to be a real short case?

It's a lawsuit filed by an attorney from a law firm, so there should be some substance to the claims I assume. Why else accept the case? If the case is baseless, then accepting it just because of getting a lot money would be a kind of conspiracy in itself.

 

[epepke]

In other important news, Hee-propf-pfennie sued the Republic of Freedonia for hoojimation of the freenagle wuss in violation of the Mpsgrvld Zxlbgr accords.

 

[Hawk one]

That doesn't sound plausible. Surely it isn't possible to file a lawsuit with baseless accusations and get away with it? Then the legal system could be abused and cause harm to innocent people by false lawsuits claiming all kinds of things.

Actually, it is possible, on the very simple reason that it can often be hard to determine frivolous lawsuits until they are actually presented in court. And yes, innocent people are harmed a lot because of this.

And simply because a lawyer firm is taking a case doesn't mean much, if anything, in itself. There is no law saying that a lawyer has to believe what their client is telling or presenting for their lawyer. What does mean much is the amount and the quality of evidence that is presented.

Which leads us back to the point you're trying to avoid here: Where is the evidence to back up the claims?

 

[Tomtomkent]

It's a lawsuit filed by an attorney from a law firm, so there should be some substance to the claims I assume. Why else accept the case? If the case is baseless, then accepting it just because of getting a lot money would be a kind of conspiracy in itself.

Erm, you pay lawyers to attempt to put a case forward. A lawyer may or not believe in your cause, and may or may not just accept the instructions of the client for the retainer they are willing to pay. That the claim has been ATTEMPTED, does not follow that it is VALID, or contains EVIDENCE. Claims can, and have been, thrown out of court because of lack of evidence. They can and have been put before a judge simply because each citizen has the right to have their case heard, evin if it is guff.

So once more, in the hope you actually answer:

WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE?

 

[Tomtomkent]

That doesn't sound plausible. Surely it isn't possible to file a lawsuit with baseless accusations and get away with it? Then the legal system could be abused and cause harm to innocent people by false lawsuits claiming all kinds of things.

That depends if by "Getting away with it" you mean "has the case dismissed and has to pay legal charges".

I can assume you have never worked for a solicitor, or met another human being.

 

[Garrison]

That doesn't sound plausible. Surely it isn't possible to file a lawsuit with baseless accusations and get away with it? Then the legal system could be abused and cause harm to innocent people by false lawsuits claiming all kinds of things.

Have you been living in a cave in some distant mountain range for your entire life or do you just not read anything but CT sites? Seriously people will sue at the drop of a hat and hope someone pays them off because its too much hassle and expense to go to court.

 

[Anders Lindman]

Actually, it is possible, on the very simple reason that it can often be hard to determine frivolous lawsuits until they are actually presented in court. And yes, innocent people are harmed a lot because of this.

And simply because a lawyer firm is taking a case doesn't mean much, if anything, in itself. There is no law saying that a lawyer has to believe what their client is telling or presenting for their lawyer. What does mean much is the amount and the quality of evidence that is presented.

Which leads us back to the point you're trying to avoid here: Where is the evidence to back up the claims?

At least the attorney must have taken the lawsuit seriously?

 

[Anders Lindman]

WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE?

Maybe some of the evidence is pointed out in the PDF file?

 

[Anders Lindman]

Have you been living in a cave in some distant mountain range for your entire life or do you just not read anything but CT sites? Seriously people will sue at the drop of a hat and hope someone pays them off because its too much hassle and expense to go to court.

Still, there has to be some possible validity to the claim in a lawsuit? If I sue the Pope for one trillion dollars, would that really be doable in practice?