JFK Conspiracy Theories: It Never Ends

[RoboTimbo]

Sour Grapes?

Ok, I'll be the one to tell you why people are pointing and laughing at that picture you culled from a Loon & Whacktard site. It's because the site you got that from chose the biggest buffoon they could find and promised him half a beer if he would pose in any way other than how LHO was standing in the backyard photo. Can you imagine how little intelligence the kid must have had who posed that way? Do you see the danger you run into by geting all your information from Loon & Whacktard sites?

 

[Walter Ego]

Vote For Robert!

The November Stundie Finals are up and Robert has made the cut for this quote.

My assumptions are correct and being common knowledge, are immune from attack.

Vote here for number 15, "Common sense is immune." Stuff the ballot box if necessary.

Robert has provided much Stundielicious Kook-a-tainment in his short time here. Permit me a retrospective of some of his more Stundatious comments.

Yeah, well Facebook is probably a little more reliable that the mainstream news media.

Oswald claimed to be a Marxist, but actually was a loyal patriotic American who loved his country, loved his president, was a former US Marine, worked for Naval Intelligence, as well as an operative for CIA and FBI, was sent to USSR after having been sheep dipped as a disloyal American, but never revoked his citizenship, was apparently sent to language school so that he could speak fluent Russian, then sent to USSR so that he could spy for the US. While he made a big splash with the Fair Play for Cuba Committee, he was also working with anti-Castro groups at the same time. Someday, when the full truth is accepted, he should be posthumously awarded the Medal of Freedom.

I see a shot from the front blowing out his head producing a predictable jet effect spray of blood, brain and tissue. You see only what you want to see. I also see Jackie turning around to the trunk to try to retrieve a chunk of the JFK's brain blown away from the back of his head. But it's all subject to interpretation, which is why my proof of a second shooter lies in the un-assailable statements of the Parkland Personnel, not the Z film.

What do other assassinations have to do with the JFK assassination in the world of objective rationality? Absolutely nothing.

I don't think so. But why beat a dead horse? Obama has won the birther issue by putting out a highly dubious certificate debunked by numerous experts, But the public is tired of the issue, so why beat a dead horse? Fact is, Donald has repeatedly said he just doesn't know. But we do know that Obama has somehow shielded all of his academic records from public scrutiny. And he gets away with it. Why? Because he is Black? (or sort of Black, uh somewhat).

 

[A'isha]

Come on, guys. He's an obvious troll, and he keeps dropping clues. The mask in the photo is just the most obvious clue so far, considering its widespread use by 4chan trolls.

 

[RoboTimbo]

I think we all know he's a troll. He's just so inept at it that we keep poking him.

 

[CurtC]

What's the deal with that mask? I'm not familiar with that.

 

[Walter Ego]

What's the deal with that mask? I'm not familiar with that.

The mask is a Guy Fawkes mask worn by the main character in the movie V for Vendetta. Fawkes was a conspirator in the Gunpowder Plot of 1605. The mask, which is cheap and is mass produced, has become popular with kids and retarded adults like 9/11 truther Kevin Barrett who wear it at political demonstrations and see it as a symbol for sticking it to "The Man." In Robert's case it means he is probably gay.

 

[Tomtomkent]

The mask is a Guy Fawkes mask worn by the main character in the movie V for Vendetta. Fawkes was a conspirator in the Gunpowder Plot of 1605. The mask, which is cheap and is mass produced, has become popular with kids and retarded adults like 9/11 truther Kevin Barrett who wear it at political demonstrations and see it as a symbol for sticking it to "The Man." In Robert's case it means he is probably gay.

Because nothing says "I'm an individual" like wearing the same mask as everybody else.

And if you are going to stick it to the man why not dress as the fictional psychotic torturer who dressed as a real murderous religious zealot.

 

[Robrob]

The Poes are irritating. They're like vandals or taggers, all excited they could be destructive and counterproductive.

 

[GregHouseMD]

The mask is a Guy Fawkes mask worn by the main character in the movie V for Vendetta. Fawkes was a conspirator in the Gunpowder Plot of 1605. The mask, which is cheap and is mass produced, has become popular with kids and retarded adults like 9/11 truther Kevin Barrett who wear it at political demonstrations and see it as a symbol for sticking it to "The Man." In Robert's case it means he is probably gay.

I dispute this. I think Natalie Portman was the main character in the movie. She's much better looking than the masked character even after her head was shaved.

 

[GregHouseMD]

True to form -- another Red Herring.

But it wasn't Robert. The real live person who took the photo then photo-shopped the mask over the guys face was making a statement. One you would recognize if you had known who the mask represented.

Your attempts at witticisms and droll comments are almost, but not quite, laughable.

You have been given many chances to offer some independent, rational, constructive input and actually have a discussion, an exchange of ideas but you have read a book or two, or portions of several books and think you know all there is to know.

The difference between you and most of the critical thinkers on this forum is this:

If logical, substantiated evidence was presented that there was a conspiracy, the critical thinkers would have an open mind and examine it with the possibility of changing their minds.

Robert will never allow for the possibility that his position could be wrong.

 

[Robert Prey]

But it wasn't Robert. The real live person who took the photo then photo-shopped the mask over the guys face was making a statement. One you would recognize if you had known who the mask represented.

Yeah, right. And the statement is, this is how a shadow is supposed to look, un-forged or tampered with. It has nothing whatever to do with that other Guy you seem to be channeling. A completely off topic Red Herring.

 

[Robert Prey]

The difference between you and most of the critical thinkers on this forum is this:

If logical, substantiated evidence was presented that there was a conspiracy, the critical thinkers would have an open mind and examine it with the possibility of changing their minds.

Now that is really funny. Never have I encountered so many head in sand close minded "critical thinkers." The evidence I have presented it over-whelming. On the other side, the Lone Nutter evidence is virtually nil.

 

[Worm]

The most interesting thing about the mask is that is is produced by 'The Man' - Time Warner

Linky

 

[Tomtomkent]

Yeah, right. And the statement is, this is how a shadow is supposed to look, un-forged or tampered with. It has nothing whatever to do with that other Guy you seem to be channeling. A completely off topic Red Herring.

Why is the rifle being held in the wrong direction with the torso twisted the wrong way?
How do you think that alters the shadow?
Why are you talking about the red herring and not addressing the failings of your evidence?


Because your red herring is a scarlet mackeral? A rouge piscine?


But hey, thanks for pointing out you were apparently astoundingly dumb enough to be ignorant of the comparisons the mask would draw. That is FAR better than just being insensitive to them...

 

[Noztradamus]

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I know he is referring to a movie with the letter "V" in the title ~~~~

Rocky V? Star Trek V?


(Will the sequel of V for Vendetta be VI for Vendetta?)

 

[Robert Prey]

Why is the rifle being held in the wrong direction with the torso twisted the wrong way?
How do you think that alters the shadow?
Why are you talking about the red herring and not addressing the failings of your evidence?


Because your red herring is a scarlet mackeral? A rouge piscine?


But hey, thanks for pointing out you were apparently astoundingly dumb enough to be ignorant of the comparisons the mask would draw. That is FAR better than just being insensitive to them...

More Sour Grapes.

 

[Walter Ego]

Your attempts at witticisms and droll comments are almost, but not quite, laughable.

Correct. Like most know-it-alls Robert is completely without a sense of humor.

You have been given many chances to offer some independent, rational, constructive input and actually have a discussion, an exchange of ideas but you have read a book or two, or portions of several books and think you know all there is to know.

Again correct. Most of Robert's cobbled together conspiracy theory comes from two books, Best Evidence by David S. Lifton and High Treason by Harrison Livingstone and Robert Groden (reviews here and here) with additional sprinklings of misquotes and factoids from conspiracy web sites.

The difference between you and most of the critical thinkers on this forum is this:

If logical, substantiated evidence was presented that there was a conspiracy, the critical thinkers would have an open mind and examine it with the possibility of changing their minds.

Correct. Our unwillingness to be convinced by Robert has nothing to do with our alleged pig-headedness (the only explanation he can come up with for our refusal to be converted), but the pathetic and, more often than not, false quality of the "evidence" he has presented.

Robert will never allow for the possibility that his position could be wrong.

His ego would not permit it. Despite my pseudonymic sir name, I would suffer no loss of self-esteem if solid, incontrovertible evidence of a conspiracy to kill JFK could be found. It's been almost half a century since the assassination and the conspiracy peddlers have failed to find any such evidence. Roberts mish-mash of factoids, falsehoods and mined out-of-context quotes has not changed that reality.

 

[CurtC]

Why is the rifle being held in the wrong direction with the torso twisted the wrong way?

With that picture, he seems to have proven that a shadow of a long object can be oriented to produce a shadow that's not at 90 degrees (to the person's shadow). He doesn't seem to grasp that this is different from proving that a shadow could not possibly be at 90 degrees.

But then basic logic doesn't seem to be Robert's strong suit.

 

[EventHorizon]

Now that is really funny. Never have I encountered so many head in sand close minded "critical thinkers." The evidence I have presented it over-whelming. On the other side, the Lone Nutter evidence is virtually nil.

It's like you live in bizarro world. Everything you think is exactly the opposite of the way it actually is.

 

[Tomtomkent]

More Sour Grapes.

So i ask why is the guy in your photo in a significantly different position to LHO in his photo? Why have you not adopted the pose in which it is "impossible" to make the shadow?

And you answer because of sour grapes? Fine. I will take that as an admission you felt sour grapes and refused to try an experiment you knew would disprove your idea of impossible.