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My anecdotal claims

Limbo said:
Then there was the time I was meditating and I traveled to the astral plane or whatever and there I penetrated the spherical realm of an evil tyrant god who was possessing someone somewhere. You should see how the shimmering spheres look in the astral void. Unbelievable.

Well, it's more like I was brought there by the Goddess. Brought there to fight. Afterword she brought me back on a bridge made of light. It was amazing.

Long story short I kicked the evil dudes ass. It was cool.
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A veritable Titus Crow, you are.
 
Limbo said:
When Neo was first freed from the Matrix, how did he know that he was not simply wrapped up in another Matrix?
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Please elaborate on the relevance of this example to your claimed mystical experiences. Off the bat, one key difference that I can see is that your mystical insights could well make falsifiable claims. If they don't then you may cast such notions aside and get on with things in the apparent ouchy-hurty "real" world , as Neo did.
 
Sideroxylon said:
Please elaborate on the relevance of this example to your claimed mystical experiences. Off the bat, one key difference that I can see is that your mystical insights could well make falsifiable claims. If they don't then you may cast such notions aside and get on with things in the apparent ouchy-hurty "real" world , as Neo did.
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When you wake up from a dream, how do you know that you aren't simply wrapped in another dream?

When you exit Plato's cave, how do you know that you aren't simply entering another cave? One big enough for the stars..?

You asked about the relevance of the Matrix. It's simple. The Matrix is based on the Monomyth pattern which is in turn derived from the universal mystic pattern. As a result The Matrix is a mystical metaphor. Neo is a mystic, by sloppy Hollywood analogy.

The Hero With a Thousand Faces is a standard part of Hollywood, thanks in part to Lucas. So as a result many movies are mystical metaphors but people don't really realize it.
 
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Limbo said:
When you wake up from a dream, how do you know that you aren't simply wrapped in another dream?
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Dreams are inconsistent, and flaky--they jump from topic to topic at a thought. When I wake up, the world is very consistent, and organized. The drastic difference between the two is one of the reasons for formulating the concept of a dream.

Now, about that evidence?
 
You know, it would seem to me that any "enlightened" person would be able to come up with convincing arguments which could actually sway we lowly skeptics. If it's our shortcomings that keep us myopic about the nature of reality, then surely, someone like you who has transcended reality could come up with arguments that would at least pique the interest of idiots like me and make us suspect that we are wrong and there might be some substance behind your proclamations. Instead of drivel.
 
Limbo said:
So as a result many movies are mystical metaphors but people don't really realize it.
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I think you may be mixing up the mythical with the mystical. The former, you see, can provide useful insight into the human condition; the latter, well, we have seen all manner of unevidenced hooey in the past six pages of this thread.

We like our hooey evidenced here thanks much.
 
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Limbo
I've tried asking people on other forums what a 'higher level of consciousmness is', but no answers have been forthcoming. I wonder if you could have a go at explaining it, even though, as far as I have seen reading this thread, you have not actually mentioned it by name?
 
Limbo said:
Open? In that case,

Wax on, wax off.

Go read a book. There is your introductory tutorial. If you need help with any of it, let me know.
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This book is cheaper than the others you recommended, some of which are over $100 used. I am willing to read it on the chance that in my 20 years on a spiritual path I missed something.

As far as tutorials, can you maybe provide suggestions that the skeptics here can use that don't involve the expense of a book? A brief meditation exercise over a few days, say? Something with which one can see results without a book or a lengthy investment of time?

I have meditated and dreamed and journeyed and yet I have still turned into a skeptic. I suppose I had all the wrong teachers. I have never been God, though.

Limbo said:
I can tell you how to become your own damn Buddha so you can see for yourself what a fool you are right now.
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This is a good idea. Tell this.
 
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I'd like to thank Limbo for finally making some specific claims. They are pretty much what I expected.

As for Limbo's "monomyth" and "collective subconscious," can anyone remember who / where the rebuttal to this was posted? Someone did a nice job going through many, many examples of other cultures, showing the difference between other religion and myths and perspective and Limbo's. I can't remember who or which thread, though.
 
Limbo:

I'd like to ask you two questions.

1. Why did you start this thread?
2. Do you really understand why skeptics always ask for evidence?
 
Limbo, can you explain to us a method for telling the difference between a true mystic/god/buddha and a fraud who pretends to be a mystic/god/buddha in order to get attention/admiration/power/money or some other self serving thing?
 
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Limbo, can you explain to us a method for telling the difference between a true mystic/god/buddha and a fraud who pretends to be a mystic/god/buddha in order to get attention/admiration/power/money or some other self serving thing?
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That's an easy one. They are all frauds.
 
Sideroxylon said:
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I like Bertrand Russell's quote on fools, don't you? “The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.”
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By that reckoning I am the wisest poster on the forum:D
 
SusanB-M1 said:
Limbo
I've tried asking people on other forums what a 'higher level of consciousmness is', but no answers have been forthcoming. I wonder if you could have a go at explaining it, even though, as far as I have seen reading this thread, you have not actually mentioned it by name?
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It is apparently the activity of the crown chakra, the thousand petal lotus. One's mind becomes a stage for the development of awareness of the synthesis of archetypes, amongst other things.
 
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