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JFK Conspiracy Theories: It Never Ends

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Oswald and the V mask guy compared

Now here are the two photos together First, you will note the shadow cast by the Oswald figure and the V mask figure -- they are the same. Now look at the shadows cast by the rifle as versus the stick. Obviously the LHO pic must be a fraud. Now as the the other example placed on this board, of an alleged accurate shadow, obviously, it too is a fraud,



 
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wow... just wow.

I really like the way you've tilted the broomstick away from the camera when its obvious to anybody looking that Oswald has his rifle on his hip tilted towards the camera.

Pa - Thetic.
 
Robert Prey said:
Now here are the two photos together First, you will note the shadow cast by the Oswald figure and the V mask figure -- they are the same.
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Is that you in the picture? Is so, I can see why you're hiding your face. Your hero Lee Harvey Oswald didn't have to wear a mask. He was proud of his guns and his militancy. He was proud of the backyards photos. He showed one of the photos to Michael Payne. He sent a copy of one of the photos to The Militant (one of the publications he was holding) and signed another copy for his friend George de Mohrenschildt. You are not doing right by your hero, Robert. Shame on you.
 
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I am impressed with RP's comments here in the last few posts. He actually answers questions! True, his answers are wrong, but he does give answers instead of tired old nonsensical comments.

I might be a little more forgiving of RP's failure with the photo he claims proves something if he had correctly identified the mask as a "XXX XXXXXX" mask and not a "V" mask. I know he is referring to a movie with the letter "V" in the title but shouldn't someone who seeks to be seen as a "teacher" know whose mask he is "wearing"?

I was going to put the name in but I thought I would give Robert a chance to identify the historical figure first.
 
bynmdsue said:
wow... just wow.

I really like the way you've tilted the broomstick away from the camera when its obvious to anybody looking that Oswald has his rifle on his hip tilted towards the camera.

Pa - Thetic.
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I was wondering if I were the only one to notice that? :confused:
 
Robert Prey said:
Now here are the two photos together First, you will note the shadow cast by the Oswald figure and the V mask figure -- they are the same. Now look at the shadows cast by the rifle as versus the stick. Obviously the LHO pic must be a fraud. Now as the the other example placed on this board, of an alleged accurate shadow, obviously, it too is a fraud,



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Im sorry what is this supposed to prove?

For a start the "Model" has failed to match the possition of LHO in any meaningful way. He is posed differently, he is oriented differently (yes we can see the shadow of the man himself is at a noticably different angle, to 11 oclock on LHO, slightly further behind the masked magician) and the "rifle" analogue is pointing in the complete opposite way. The rifle is not even (as has already been pointed out) accurately aligned.

The "main" shadow of the figure is understandable, even if you got there for the exact time of day, and standing towards the sun, it would be dificult to exactly align yourself to another photo, fair enough. The handling of the "rifle" however, especially changing the gait and twist of the model, is of greater concern. The opposing shoulder of the model is towards us, away from us in the LHO picture. Meaning not only the rifle but the entire upper half of the body is out of whack and changing the shadows.

In the interest of "fraud detection" I would have to point out that if this was a genuine attempt it was rather flawed, but these mistakes make me suspicious that efforts were made to directly AVOID shadows that might look too much like LHO.
 
GregHouseMD said:
I am impressed with RP's comments here in the last few posts. He actually answers questions! True, his answers are wrong, but he does give answers instead of tired old nonsensical comments.

I might be a little more forgiving of RP's failure with the photo he claims proves something if he had correctly identified the mask as a "XXX XXXXXX" mask and not a "V" mask. I know he is referring to a movie with the letter "V" in the title but shouldn't someone who seeks to be seen as a "teacher" know whose mask he is "wearing"?

I was going to put the name in but I thought I would give Robert a chance to identify the historical figure first.
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I have some additional questions on this line:
1) Does Rob think that "V" was a hero in the comic?
2) Does he believe that the historic figure was a "hero" like LHO?
 
GregHouseMD said:
I am impressed with RP's comments here in the last few posts. He actually answers questions! True, his answers are wrong, but he does give answers instead of tired old nonsensical comments.

I might be a little more forgiving of RP's failure with the photo he claims proves something if he had correctly identified the mask as a "XXX XXXXXX" mask and not a "V" mask. I know he is referring to a movie with the letter "V" in the title but shouldn't someone who seeks to be seen as a "teacher" know whose mask he is "wearing"?

I was going to put the name in but I thought I would give Robert a chance to identify the historical figure first.
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True to form -- another Red Herring.
 
Tomtomkent said:
Im sorry what is this supposed to prove?

For a start the "Model" has failed to match the possition of LHO in any meaningful way. He is posed differently, he is oriented differently (yes we can see the shadow of the man himself is at a noticably different angle, to 11 oclock on LHO, slightly further behind the masked magician) and the "rifle" analogue is pointing in the complete opposite way. The rifle is not even (as has already been pointed out) accurately aligned.

The "main" shadow of the figure is understandable, even if you got there for the exact time of day, and standing towards the sun, it would be dificult to exactly align yourself to another photo, fair enough. The handling of the "rifle" however, especially changing the gait and twist of the model, is of greater concern. The opposing shoulder of the model is towards us, away from us in the LHO picture. Meaning not only the rifle but the entire upper half of the body is out of whack and changing the shadows.

In the interest of "fraud detection" I would have to point out that if this was a genuine attempt it was rather flawed, but these mistakes make me suspicious that efforts were made to directly AVOID shadows that might look too much like LHO.
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Or, in other, simpler terms: Robert's analysis is invalid.
 
I'm betting there's a blooper reel of Lee Har-V Oswald desperately trying to not get the shadows to line up before finally settling on the stilted Star Wars Kid pose.
 
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