JFK Conspiracy Theories: It Never Ends

[Tomtomkent]

A seven years after the fact rationalization of an original memo which mandated One Lone Nut or Cover it Up.

Yes, there have been several pieces of evidence claimed to be part of a cover up or whitewash. No evidence has been offered to suggest this is the case, other than it conflicts with the Parkland statements. Which are not supported by material evidence.

Where is the material evidence to support the Parkland documents Robert?

 

[Hubert Cumberdale]

Without going through the whole thread, has Roberto said what times it are yet?

 

[Tomtomkent]

Without going through the whole thread, has Roberto said what times it are yet?

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No, just that doesn't prove anything and the back yard photos are fake. IIRC.

 

[bynmdsue]

No, just that doesn't prove anything and the back yard photos are fake. IIRC.

Them shadows is painted on the ground. Woooo!

 

[Hubert Cumberdale]

Yeah, I was going to catalogue every question Roberticanus has dodged answering but then I realised its pretty much all of them and it would take me a month.

 

[Walter Ego]

Evidence? Robert Don't Need No Stinkin' Evidence!

Evidence?

Robert doesn't have any evidence. Robert doesn't need any evidence. What he has is bare assertion like the examples below. If he believes it to be true, it is true and that is sufficient. Evidence is boring. Evidence is for the brainwashed masses and stick in the mud skeptics. He is above all that.

The Warren Report is a Whitewash.

The Warren Commission was formed to convict a single dead man for the crime and convince the public that no real independent investigation was warranted.

And it was Katzenbach's suggestion that no one even consider a wider conspiracy.

So the facts do not support a conspiracy even before the investigation? Are you speaking of the United States of America or Alice in Wonderland?

A confessed state of mind of the Chief Justice and his underlings IS evidence.

I refer you back to Wesley Liebler's assertion that Chief Justice Warren wanted a coverup if the investigation led to suspicions of conspiracy. I don't know what one could possibly conceive of as more proof of bad will than that!

 

[RoboTimbo]

Without going through the whole thread, has Roberto said what times it are yet?

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Nope. That was his cowardly dodge #742.

 

[Walter Ego]

Without going through the whole thread, has Roberto said what times it are yet?

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Robert has followed his usual pattern of argumentation regarding the shadow angles in the backyard photos. He just creates a mantra and repeats it over and over. Note that he shifts the burden of proof onto us to prove him wrong. He doesn't have to prove anything.

If the backyard photos are genuine then how do you explain the ghosted photo of LHO? The creator of the Ghosted photo, Det. Bobby G. Brown, explained it this way,
"I did it, just to be doing something."
Do you buy that?

And then there are the numerous anomalies. My favorite is 133B, where the rifle is pointed at 11 o'clock, but in the shadow, it clearly points to 9 o'clock. Just try it sometime.

Nobody has proven the adverse shadow that I refer to in 133B. No source has "retracted" claims. And the only experts that have upheld the photos as genuine have connections to Am. Intell, in other words the conspirators.

As has been pointed out, the shadow of the rifle on 133B is inconsistent and the example of your Dartmath "expert" has nothing to do with 133B. The only way to disprove it, is to duplicate it. Go for it, or forever hold your peace.

What you have here is a single shadow that cannot be compared to any other. In 133B you have the shadow of the man, the shadow of the rifle and the shadow of outstretched hands while the live figure has vertical hands none of which is consistent. If you want to prove 133B genuine, then duplicate IT.

 

[Tomtomkent]

The last post seeming to ignore that this threads resident model maker did "replicate it".

 

[Robert Prey]

Without going through the whole thread, has Roberto said what times it are yet?

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Time to replicate the original b/y photo example, with two shadows, the refracted shadows of which are not consistent.

 

[TheRedWorm]

Your analysis is invalid.

 

[bynmdsue]

There's a video earlier in the thread where a fellow does replicate it over and over and over, hilariously. Lemme go find it.
BAM!
from page 9(!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AuNDNpY4f4

 

[Border Reiver]

Given the passage of time (48 years) what's point of this alleged conspiracy?

Any conspirators are either dead or so close to it as to make it irrelevant.

Anyone in any institution that may or may not have done anything to bring any kind of conspiracy off at the time is long since retired, as very likely their successor and their successor's successor's successor is as well, meaning that any "punishment" meted out to organizations would be beyond ludicrous.

And in the end, what would proving a conspiracy change?

 

[Tomtomkent]

Time to replicate the original b/y photo example, with two shadows, the refracted shadows of which are not consistent. [qimg]http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/imagehosting/526994ee0f0b0e4626.jpg[/qimg]

Already been done.

If you ignored it so far why should it be posted again?

 

[Tomtomkent]

I couldn't get to Neely Street, so I made a model...
And drew up the backyard and people in Autocad..
Either can be positioned to any time of the day.

Is it really time to replicate the photos? Funny this model replicated it 40 pages ago... poor robert. If his theory of how shadows work is blown out of the water he just pretends it hasn't....

 

[Tomtomkent]

And in the end, what would proving a conspiracy change?

Apparently Newtonion physics, the characteristics of light, ballistic theory and the wounds on the body of JFK. And the definition of "hero".

 

[matt.tansy]

Why is it every CT is incapable of visualizing how shadows will fall in our 3D world?

Some idiotic Moon Hoax movie said one photo showed the angle cast by an astronaut's head onto the surface measured 26° but the Sun was only 15° above the horizon at the time so therefore the photo was faked. They failed to mention foreshortening.

 

[bynmdsue]

Why is it every CT is incapable of visualizing how shadows will fall in our 3D world?

Some idiotic Moon Hoax movie said one photo showed the angle cast by an astronaut's head onto the surface measured 26° but the Sun was only 15° above the horizon at the time so therefore the photo was faked. They failed to mention foreshortening.

They don't go outside very often.

 

[Robert Prey]

Why is it every CT is incapable of visualizing how shadows will fall in our 3D world?

Some idiotic Moon Hoax movie said one photo showed the angle cast by an astronaut's head onto the surface measured 26° but the Sun was only 15° above the horizon at the time so therefore the photo was faked. They failed to mention foreshortening.

I had one guy so peeved at my ignorance of shadows that he went right to the backyard in question at the right time of day with broomstick in hand. But he failed to replicate.

 

[Robert Prey]

Given the passage of time (48 years) what's point of this alleged conspiracy?

Any conspirators are either dead or so close to it as to make it irrelevant.

Anyone in any institution that may or may not have done anything to bring any kind of conspiracy off at the time is long since retired, as very likely their successor and their successor's successor's successor is as well, meaning that any "punishment" meted out to organizations would be beyond ludicrous.

And in the end, what would proving a conspiracy change?

Perhaps an enlightening of a generation of Americans, not so easily conned.