EventHorizon
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I guess that hit a bit too close to home.
JFK Conspiracy Theories: It Never Ends
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I guess that hit a bit too close to home.
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Well, that will change my mind. If only it in any way described how or why the alleged exit wound was invisible to all photographs or film of the back of JFKs head after all three shots, why the photographs that Robert himself submitted support the exit wound on the front of the head, why no material evidence robert has submitted, the shirt, the car, the pooling of the blood, or the alleged "ambiguity" of the autopsy, supports the specific or vague claims he makes, nor how he could possibly state as fact the ideas that the rifle, palm print, photographs, etc are faked, frauds, or other lies with out proof, or even proving a possibility.
Perhaps more worryingly he has never offered anything other than his opinion that witness group A are more reliable the B. In this case everybody else is wrong because Parkland staff were correct. Here's anidea, what if it was the other way around. What if the Z film, Poloroid and other photographs were correct, as was the autopsy team, the photographic record, blood stains, shirt, and indeed the actual dead body of JFK?
Wow... that would mean we had a narrative with material evidence.
Where is the material evidence for Roberts story? Photographs cropped, rotated through 90 degrees and described innacurately. Hmmm.
Perhaps more worryingly he has never offered anything other than his opinion that witness group A are more reliable the B. In this case everybody else is wrong because Parkland staff were correct. Here's anidea, what if it was the other way around. What if the Z film, Poloroid and other photographs were correct, as was the autopsy team, the photographic record, blood stains, shirt, and indeed the actual dead body of JFK?
Wow... that would mean we had a narrative with material evidence.
Where is the material evidence for Roberts story? Photographs cropped, rotated through 90 degrees and described innacurately. Hmmm.
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Only about 45 pages of coherent argument. But a Lone Nutter convinced against his will, is of the same opinion still.
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Not here, where are they? How are your foot injuries coming along?
Oops! That was two questions! LOL.
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I must have missed the coherent argument.
Did I blink when it was explained why no photographs or film of JFK in the plaza after the shots were fired show an exit wound to the back of the head?
Why the material evidence conflicts with Roberts claims.
Why the autopsy and related photogrpahs conflict with the claims.
Why there is an absence of material evidence supporting a second shooter.
Why the second shopoter would be shooting from somehwere so out of whack with the "cover up".
Why the FBI agents or Police officers responsible for "faking" palm prints have not been named.
And... Well... Any kind of argument that might be mistaken for coherent, or even consistant.
Walter Ego
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You have also in your short tenure here left, on this and other threads, an amazing collection of Stundie worthy quotes which I have thoughtfully been collecting.
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Tomtomkent
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I think you meant "instead of" not "also". The arguments left are not coherent.
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TomTom:
Did I blink when it was explained why no photographs or film of JFK in the plaza after the shots were fired show an exit wound to the back of the head?
NO. There were no photos taken of the back of the head.
Why the material evidence conflicts with Roberts claims.
You have no material evidence. None.
Why the autopsy and related photogrpahs conflict with the claims.
There are no autopsy photographs.
Why there is an absence of material evidence supporting a second shooter.
Except the 30 on the scene Parkland witnesses, the 7 or so at Bethesda and Powers, O'donnell and Clint Hill right behind the Pres who saw and heard shots from the knoll.
Why the FBI agents or Police officers responsible for "faking" palm prints have not been named.
He was named.
The rest of your post is just more re-re-re-gurgitated LN baloney.
Did I blink when it was explained why no photographs or film of JFK in the plaza after the shots were fired show an exit wound to the back of the head?
NO. There were no photos taken of the back of the head.
Why the material evidence conflicts with Roberts claims.
You have no material evidence. None.
Why the autopsy and related photogrpahs conflict with the claims.
There are no autopsy photographs.
Why there is an absence of material evidence supporting a second shooter.
Except the 30 on the scene Parkland witnesses, the 7 or so at Bethesda and Powers, O'donnell and Clint Hill right behind the Pres who saw and heard shots from the knoll.
Why the FBI agents or Police officers responsible for "faking" palm prints have not been named.
He was named.
The rest of your post is just more re-re-re-gurgitated LN baloney.
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RoboTimbo
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All debunked. Anything else?
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Except of course the Z film, Polaroid, and the autopsy photos showing a small entry wound. Guess you forgot those.
And yet you claim to have posted some yourself. Do you now retract the photographs of the car and shirt which conflict with your claims? And what happened to the rest of the evidence you only CLAIM to have countered: What about the body that was buried? The autopsy? The rifle. The Palm print. The photographs of LHO with the Rifle AND the pistol he used to kill Tippit? Guess all that slipped your mind.
Yeah there are. You even posted some yourself and repeated lies about what they showed. Don't worry, we helpfully supplied the uncropped versions.
Yes, we do except those because I said material evidence. And those are statements. Not material evidence.
Really? When did you name him?
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You ate some bad baloney? Shame about that.
RoboTimbo
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See Robert? I told you nobody would think any less of you if you cowardly dodged 7forever's challenges.
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TomTom:
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Why the FBI agents or Police officers responsible for "faking" palm prints have not been named.
He was named.
The rest of your post is just more re-re-re-gurgitated LN baloney.
Really? When did you name him?
A long time ago. Lieutenant Day of the DPD who then refused to swear to it.
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Why the FBI agents or Police officers responsible for "faking" palm prints have not been named.
He was named.
The rest of your post is just more re-re-re-gurgitated LN baloney.
Really? When did you name him?
A long time ago. Lieutenant Day of the DPD who then refused to swear to it.
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EventHorizon
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A lie. You can quite clearly see the back of his head in the Z-film.
A lie. There's a bullet, pieces of bullets, the rifle with palm prints etc...
A lie. They've been posted in this thread.
In addition to the fact that after over 1800 posts you still don't know what 'material evidence' means, we have another lie. Clint Hill claimed there were two shots and they came from the book depository. That comes from a source that you yourself supplied.
Yet another lie.
There's only one person regurgitating baloney in this thread.
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So you are happy to say here and now that you accuse Lt. Day of being a conspirator?
Sorry if this has been asked before, but how does JREF interpret/explain Kennedy's Secret Society speech?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhZk8ronces
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhZk8ronces
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A speech made almost at the height of the cold war. Soviet communism, pure and simple.
Full text here;
http://www.jfklibrary.org/Research/...merican-Newspaper-Publishers-Association.aspx
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NO. I accuse him of being a liar.
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Event Horizon's continued baloney:
"Clint Hill claimed there were two shots and they came from the book depository. That comes from a source that you yourself supplied."
But here is what he really said:
Mr. SPECTER. And did you have a reaction or impression as to the source of point of origin of the second shot that you described?
Mr. HILL. It was right, but I cannot say for sure that it was rear, because when I mounted the car it was--it had a different sound, first of all, than the first sound that I heard. The second one had almost a double sound--as though you were standing against something metal and firing into it,
"Clint Hill claimed there were two shots and they came from the book depository. That comes from a source that you yourself supplied."
But here is what he really said:
Mr. SPECTER. And did you have a reaction or impression as to the source of point of origin of the second shot that you described?
Mr. HILL. It was right, but I cannot say for sure that it was rear, because when I mounted the car it was--it had a different sound, first of all, than the first sound that I heard. The second one had almost a double sound--as though you were standing against something metal and firing into it,
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