Occupy Wall Street better defend its identity

[JihadJane]

One wonders what's going to happen to the money donated to the OWS, if there is any justice it should be given to the towns affected so they can pay for the clean up...

Wouldn't the money be better spent on patching up curtain twitchers frayed blinds?

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'Los Angeles poised to be first major U.S. city to call for end of corporate personhood.'

"Next week the Los Angeles City Council will vote on a resolution that calls on Congress to amend the Constitution to clearly establish that only living persons -- not corporations -- are endowed with constitutional rights and that money is not the same as free speech. If this resolution is passed, Los Angeles will be the first major city in the U.S. to call for an end to all corporate constitutional rights."

 

[WildCat]

I'm not American and I personally have no idea what you're talking about. You haven't presented any statistics on the third-party limits in the UK while I have presented them for Canada. I have also presented evidence that, in Canada, there is public money spent on political advertising--something that does not happen in the USA--so my own hard-earned dollars have to pay for political opinions to which I am strenuously opposed.

There are actually some federal matching funds available for presidential elections.

 

[WildCat]

WIf this resolution is passed, Los Angeles will be the first major city in the U.S. to call for an end to all corporate constitutional rights."

I don't think thy've thought this through. Typical of OWS.

 

[Ziggurat]

I don't think thy've thought this through. Typical of OWS.

Or worse: maybe they have.

 

[Alt+F4]

Or worse: maybe they have.

Scary thought. Imagine corporations having no constitutional rights, they couldn't be criminally or civilly prosecuted. No more law suits against corporations.

 

[Neally]

Wouldn't the money be better spent on patching up curtain twitchers frayed blinds?

Yours must hanging by threads.

 

[bookitty]

There are actually some federal matching funds available for presidential elections.

For now:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...sight-agency/2011/12/01/gIQAjesPHO_story.html

The House on Thursday passed a bill to end the public financing of presidential campaigns. It would dismantle a system set up after the Watergate scandal of the 1970s that has been overshadowed in recent years by the huge sums of private money pouring into elections.

The bill would remove from income tax forms the check-off box where taxpayers can voluntarily steer $3 into a fund for presidential primaries and general elections. The Republican-backed measure passed 235-190 on a nearly party-line vote.

 

[Neally]

Adam Carolla explains the OWS Generation.

Lays it out on the entitlement and wealth envy attitude of the Occutards.

 

[WildCat]

For now:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...sight-agency/2011/12/01/gIQAjesPHO_story.html

It's pretty much obsolete now anyway. Both Obama and McCain opted out of them last election. The money offered is simply not worth the reporting requirements necessary.

 

[Virus]

Occutards vandalize local church and small business.

http://www.komonews.com/news/local/134882023.html

"Instead of increasing my interest in Occupy Seattle, I am left to wonder if it's full of losers who don't have the brains to sort out the simple context of where to post their message," the neighbor, Knox, told KOMO News.

Nice going tards. Stay classy.

 

[JihadJane]

"Calling on the judicial system to institute an immediate moratorium on all foreclosures until a fair system of home loans is put into place."

Beautiful protest song stops foreclosure hearing...

"Mr. Auctioneer
All the People here
We're asking you hold off the sales right now
We're going to survive but we don't know how"

 

[WildCat]

"Calling on the judicial system to institute an immediate moratorium on all foreclosures until a fair system of home loans is put into place."

Beautiful protest song stops foreclosure hearing...

"We need a stronger system for dealing with foreclosures, one that holds banks accountable for making bad loans"

IOW, end mortgages entirely that aren't 100% secured by collateral. Yeah, that will help!

 

[shuize]

Scary thought. Imagine corporations having no constitutional rights, they couldn't be criminally or civilly prosecuted. No more law suits against corporations.

I raised this same question a few pages back. Do people calling for the end of corporate personhood really think we'd be better off not allowing lawsuits for or against corporations? Or that we'd somehow be better off not being able to write legally enforceable contracts with corporations?

I've yet to hear an answer about this.

 

[WildCat]

I raised this same question a few pages back. Do people calling for the end of corporate personhood really think we'd be better off not allowing lawsuits for or against corporations? Or that we'd somehow be better off not being able to write legally enforceable contracts with corporations?

I've yet to hear an answer about this.

These are the same people who can't figure out why corporations can't marry, get a passport, or go to jail if they're "people" so don't expect too much from the answer.

 

[RandFan]

IOW, end mortgages entirely that aren't 100% secured by collateral. Yeah, that will help!

Love it! I serious doubt such a regulation would ever get out of committee. There is simply too much money to make for financial institutions to take their points and finance fees up front and then pawn the loan off to other institutions. And it's so easy to do with complex derivatives. The kicker is you can then bet against the loans. Pretty smart huh?

If you ever see a politician pushing for such a regulation please let me know so I can give them credit. It won't go anywhere but it's worth acknowledging.

 

[RandFan]

The First Rule Of Capitalism...

...is don't talk about capitalism.

How Republicans are being taught to talk about Occupy Wall Street

"I'm so scared of this anti-Wall Street effort. I'm frightened to death," said Frank Luntz, a Republican strategist and one of the nation's foremost experts on crafting the perfect political message. "They're having an impact on what the American people think of capitalism."

1. Don't say 'capitalism.'

"I'm trying to get that word removed and we're replacing it with either 'economic freedom' or 'free market,' " Luntz said. "The public . . . still prefers capitalism to socialism, but they think capitalism is immoral. And if we're seen as defenders of quote, Wall Street, end quote, we've got a problem."

 

[Ziggurat]

Love it! I serious doubt such a regulation would ever get out of committee.

Hey Wildcat, I think RandFan actually thinks your proposal is a good one. He may have even thought that you were proposing it as a real solution.

 

[applecorped]

...is don't talk about capitalism.

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/4996/capitalismo.jpg

 

[JihadJane]

'U.N. Envoy: U.S. Isn't Protecting Occupy Protesters' Rights'

"""The United Nations envoy for freedom of expression is drafting an official communication to the U.S. government demanding to know why federal officials are not protecting the rights of Occupy demonstrators whose protests are being disbanded -- sometimes violently -- by local authorities.

Frank La Rue, who serves as the U.N. "special rapporteur" for the protection of free expression, told HuffPost in an interview that the crackdowns against Occupy protesters appear to be violating their human and constitutional rights.

"I believe in city ordinances and I believe in maintaining urban order," he said Thursday. "But on the other hand I also believe that the state -- in this case the federal state -- has an obligation to protect and promote human rights."

"If I were going to pit a city ordinance against human rights, I would always take human rights," he continued.

La Rue, a longtime Guatemalan human rights activist who has held his U.N. post for three years, said it's clear to him that the protesters have a right to occupy public spaces "as long as that doesn't severely affect the rights of others.""""

 

[JihadJane]

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