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Merged New video! Architects and Engineers - Solving the Mystery of Building 7

Clayton Moore said:
Yanno, if WTC7 had indeed "collapsed without explosives" the media would have provided animation after animation from every conceivable angle of how it "collapsed." Vying for the position of best, most realistic, most authentic, most accurate animation. And making big bucks for the latest and greatest to boot.

But they didn't. Because they couldn't.
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You still don't get it do you? WTC7 was just a empty office building that almost no one cared about then, or now, least of all the media. they already had four airliners and two much much bigger iconic buildings to focus on plus hundreds of dead first responders and thousands of other innocents.

The only cause of ANY interest in WTC7 is to find out why it failed to see if there was something that could be learned to make future failures less likely.
NIST does that and that's the end of the matter for sane people.

There is no story for the media. no human interest, no loss of a historic landmark zip nada zilch.
 
Clayton Moore said:
Yanno, if WTC7 had indeed "collapsed without explosives" the media would have provided animation after animation from every conceivable angle of how it "collapsed." Vying for the position of best, most realistic, most authentic, most accurate animation. And making big bucks for the latest and greatest to boot.

But they didn't. Because they couldn't.
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The above is easily one of the most retarded arguments I've ever seen on this site.

Clayton, is that what you think happens in the wake of a disaster, that the animation departments of big news media corporations go into overdrive and fight it out for the best animation because they know it's such a cash cow if they get it right?

Maybe they should cut out the middle man and get James *********** Cameron in to do the job properly.

The collapse of WTC7 is only of consequence to Truthers (which to their untrained eye, when viewed from a particluar angle, looks .........a bit iffy) and I don't think YouTube hits is going to net them a lot of cash, so show us other examples of realistic, accurate animations of disaster events being a profitable venture.

ETA: I think Ryan Mackey was right, it's over and the smoking gun is Clayton's post above.
 
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Clayton Moore said:
Yanno, if WTC7 had indeed "collapsed without explosives" the media would have provided animation after animation from every conceivable angle of how it "collapsed." Vying for the position of best, most realistic, most authentic, most accurate animation. And making big bucks for the latest and greatest to boot.

But they didn't. Because they couldn't.
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Or, maybe it was because it was a minor insignificant detail in a day of huge newsworthy events.

Like, the collapse of WTC 1&2 that actually contained people.....
 
sheeplesnshills said:
You still don't get it do you? WTC7 was just a empty office building that almost no one cared about then, or now, least of all the media. they already had four airliners and two much much bigger iconic buildings to focus on plus hundreds of dead first responders and thousands of other innocents.

The only cause of ANY interest in WTC7 is to find out why it failed to see if there was something that could be learned to make future failures less likely.
NIST does that and that's the end of the matter for sane people.

There is no story for the media. no human interest, no loss of a historic landmark zip nada zilch.
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Maybe you should research the occupants of WTC7. The capability to move mountains should have been available to protect that building from fire.
 
Clayton Moore said:
Maybe you should research the occupants of WTC7. The capability to move mountains should have been available to protect that building from fire.
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building have two primary resistances to fire. Enclosures that are tested and given a resistance rating based on number of hours of fire / heat. The second is automatic sprinkler systems, which rely on the system integrity to supply water at the necessary pressure to the correct location.

The fires in WTC 7 outlasted the first, and the system integrity was compromised in the second.
 
Clayton Moore said:
Yanno, if WTC7 had indeed "collapsed without explosives" the media would have provided animation after animation from every conceivable angle of how it "collapsed." Vying for the position of best, most realistic, most authentic, most accurate animation. And making big bucks for the latest and greatest to boot.

But they didn't. Because they couldn't.
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Ah, yes, using a hypothetical about something that never happened and cannot happen to "prove" something about something that actually did happen. We have dismissed this claim.
 
WTC7 is the "smoking gun" for truthers. The best they got in their opinion. Yet to this day, they're unable to provide a shred of evidence for CD (and no, an opinion that it looks like CD or Larry Silverstein saying "pull it" don't count), nor an even remotely rational explanation for how the building could have been rigged or why its destruction was planned.

To get attention on September 11th, they pay to light a third light beam in memory of an empty building that collapsed, alongside two other beams that signify the lives lost that day in the towers. And they wonder why they've failed.
 
These "conspiracy theorists" ya'll have around here might just be onto something...
 
RCory said:
To get attention on September 11th, they pay to light a third light beam in memory of an empty building that collapsed, alongside two other beams that signify the lives lost that day in the towers. And they wonder why they've failed.
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That they felt the need to elevate the collapse of an empty building to the same level of remembrance as the collapse of two buildings and the deaths of 2,500 people - is disgusting.
 
Robrob said:
That they felt the need to elevate the collapse of an empty building to the same level of remembrance as the collapse of two buildings and the deaths of 2,500 people - is disgusting.
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I tend to wonder if they display the same lack of - what do we call it? - "human decency" - in their normal day to day interactions with other people....

....but that presumes that people who are so dishonest and sick can have "normal" interactions...

...maybe I've answered my own question. :(
 
000063 said:
Ah, yes, using a hypothetical about something that never happened and cannot happen to "prove" something about something that actually did happen. We have dismissed this claim.
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Blah, blah, blah. Whenever it can the media beats a story to death.

Every minute detail is reviewed over and over. Every witness is interviewed over and over. Every statement is examined and reexamined for possible new twists and turns for MORE story lines.

Not so WTC7. Or 9/11. Or the Pentagon. Or the failure of our military. Or the proliferation of Neocons, smack dab in the middle of 9/11, in American policies.
 
Clayton Moore said:
Blah, blah, blah. Whenever it can the media beats a story to death.

Every minute detail is reviewed over and over. Every witness is interviewed over and over. Every statement is examined and reexamined for possible new twists and turns for MORE story lines.

Not so WTC7. Or 9/11. Or the Pentagon. Or the failure of our military. Or the proliferation of Neocons, smack dab in the middle of 9/11, in American policies.
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:crazy:
 
Clayton Moore said:
Blah, blah, blah. Whenever it can the media beats a story to death.

Every minute detail is reviewed over and over. Every witness is interviewed over and over. Every statement is examined and reexamined for possible new twists and turns for MORE story lines.

Not so WTC7. Or 9/11. Or the Pentagon. Or the failure of our military. Or the proliferation of Neocons, smack dab in the middle of 9/11, in American policies.
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Irrational ideologues make the WORST investigators EVER. Thanks for reminding me of that
 
Clayton Moore said:
Maybe you should research the occupants of WTC7. The capability to move mountains should have been available to protect that building from fire.
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Actually, Rotten Rudy's bunker aggravated the problems. All that weight and the backup batteries screwed up the weight distribution.
 
Clayton Moore said:
Blah, blah, blah. Whenever it can the media beats a story to death.

Every minute detail is reviewed over and over. Every witness is interviewed over and over. Every statement is examined and reexamined for possible new twists and turns for MORE story lines.
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Yeah, that is called journalism. It's kinda their job.

Clayton Moore said:
Not so WTC7. Or 9/11.
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Are you ******* serious? Every single channel, every single news network for WEEKS talked 24/7 about 9/11. But hey, thanks for the Stundie anyway.

Clayton Moore said:
Or the Pentagon.
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Wow, you're living in some kind of time warp, aren't you?

Clayton Moore said:
Or the failure of our military. Or the proliferation of Neocons, smack dab in the middle of 9/11, in American policies.
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Well, the reason is, those are made up delusions of yours. But hey, call CNN and let them know. Record it; For comedic value....
 
I have kept an eye on this forum for a while now after some link lead me here and followed some interesting discussions. I like the educated approaches in here but this topic actually made me feel a bit embarrassed since me and TS are from the same country.

I have seen a lot of responders in here which seem to have enough patience and motivation to discuss actual discrepancies between the reports and the youtube video...
The only problem is that our TS
1: Is not really trying to prove the NIST report is wrong, he just says/repeats it.
2: Has a very poor understanding of English or really has done no research at all. Which I base on the mere fact that not one question has been anwsered with a proper argument or proof of understanding that question
3. Is not open to feedback, critics or a point of view different from his own. People are simply wrong or stupid and if one starts making a comparison, a child comes and says: I’m rubber and you’re glue, whatever you say bounces off of me and sticks to you!
I admire the attempts to a proper discussion people made in here multiple times though.

And if it comes as some comfort; Most people in Holland do not have these ignorant point of views in my experience and not by far as much as our TS.
 
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