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Impossible to be a Republican Candidate?

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Heard some of the latest Cain drama on NPR this morning. Now that he has a mistress, can the Republican base support him? Is it possible to be a Republican candidate and not have committed at least one of the 25 or so "mortal" sins that seems to get conservative voters riled up?

Funniest part of the story was a quote attributed to Cains lawyer: "The media and the American public have no business digging in to what goes on between two consenting adults". A representative of a major Republican candidate actually said that - can he still put an (R) after his name?
 
His campaign was never much more than a sideshow; although he got some attention due to polling numbers, he never rose above 10% to get the GOP nomination at InTrade, and his goose was already pretty much cooked before the latest scandal.

I do think that this mistress thing is going to rebound to hurt Newt. The only advantage he has is that his mistress problem was over a decade ago.
 
The problem is not that the candidates are republicans, but rather the kind of republicans that the candidates are.
 
sarge said:
Is it possible to be a Republican candidate and not have committed at least one of the 25 or so "mortal" sins that seems to get conservative voters riled up?
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I doubt it's possible to be a human being and not commit some sort of sin that conservatives would find unacceptable. The trick is not having it come up during the campaign.
 
Cleon said:
I doubt it's possible to be a human being and not commit some sort of sin that conservatives would find unacceptable. The trick is not having it come up during the campaign.
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Funny, on one of these threads about the Cain sexual harassment scandal, someone argued that the NRA settlement showed that Cain could "TCB" and therefore showed he'd make a good chief executive. (Oh yeah--it was the thread that claimed Cain was better than Clinton.)
 
sarge said:
Heard some of the latest Cain drama on NPR this morning. Now that he has a mistress, can the Republican base support him? Is it possible to be a Republican candidate and not have committed at least one of the 25 or so "mortal" sins that seems to get conservative voters riled up?

Funniest part of the story was a quote attributed to Cains lawyer: "The media and the American public have no business digging in to what goes on between two consenting adults". A representative of a major Republican candidate actually said that - can he still put an (R) after his name?
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Problem is that there are many who would support a candidate who had such issues in the Primary. Sometimes the candidate a party likes most is the least electable one they could choose. Example Al Gore.

And something like this is happening with the GOP.
 
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Depends. What's your tolerance for hypocrisy?
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From an individual? Very high. From a candidate representing a party that presents itself in direct opposition to conduct engaged in by the candidate? Very low.

The Republican Party concocted an unwarranted impeachment of a sitting President for the crime of lying in answer to question he never should have been asked. His actual crime was to have been caught having an extra-marital affair. It now appears that Cain is even more guilty than Clinton was. If the Republican party does not make him in eligible to represent the party...........
 
sarge said:
From an individual? Very high. From a candidate representing a party that presents itself in direct opposition to conduct engaged in by the candidate? Very low.

The Republican Party concocted an unwarranted impeachment of a sitting President for the crime of lying in answer to question he never should have been asked. His actual crime was to have been caught having an extra-marital affair. It now appears that Cain is even more guilty than Clinton was. If the Republican party does not make him in eligible to represent the party...........
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They benefit from the decreasing attention span of Americans, I fear.
 
The thing that is killing Cain and that will kill Gingrich (if he's nominated) is the denial. Cain steadfastly declares that he has never acted inappropriately with a woman, though it becomes more and more apparent that he has done so many times. Now, he needs to worry about keeping his marriage. His presidency hopes are dead.

Newt, on the other hand, admitted infidelity long ago. But he also has lots of quotes on record chastising Bill Clinton for his immoral behavior. In order for him to be absolved of the stain of hypocrisy, he will have to come forth and admit that he never should have been so rough on Clinton, and I just don't think that's going to happen. If he thinks he's going to get a free pass on hypocrisy because it was long ago, he is mistaken.

Interestingly, Bill seems to have forgiven it, and has even said some complimentary things about Newt recently. Can Newt man-up and do the same thing about Bill? Not likely. Republicans cannot say anything nice about Democrats and be considered viable candidates. They must trash them at every opportunity. This is one of the major differences in the parties. Obama actually kept many Republicans (and Democrats who badmouthed him, like Hillary Clinton) in key spots when he felt like they were the best person for the jobs. He is not being pilloried for it.

Like Limbaugh suggested when he said he would rather see Obama fail than the US succeed, too many Republicans care more about party than they do about the country. There are a few exceptions. Very few.
 
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sarge said:
Funniest part of the story was a quote attributed to Cains lawyer: "The media and the American public have no business digging in to what goes on between two consenting adults". A representative of a major Republican candidate actually said that - can he still put an (R) after his name?
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Great! So now Cain is in favor of gay marriage?

What? :)
 
BenBurch said:
Problem is that there are many who would support a candidate who had such issues in the Primary. Sometimes the candidate a party likes most is the least electable one they could choose. Example Al Gore.

And something like this is happening with the GOP.
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Well, to be fair, let those of us on the Democratic side not get too high-and-mighty about ourselves. I seem to recall, within very recent memory, a certain sex scandal (with illegitimate children and everything - juicy!) involving a one-time vice-presidential and later would-be presidential candidate. And the douchebag was doing all of this while his wife was very publicly battling cancer.

His name: John Edwards.
 
MattusMaximus said:
Well, to be fair, let those of us on the Democratic side not get too high-and-mighty about ourselves. I seem to recall, within very recent memory, a certain sex scandal (with illegitimate children and everything - juicy!) involving a one-time vice-presidential and later would-be presidential candidate. And the douchebag was doing all of this while his wife was very publicly battling cancer.

His name: John Edwards.
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And?

Still would have made a better president than Kerry, Bush, McCain or Obama.
 
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