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Nuclear (i.e. fission and fusion) mythologies and politics

tsig said:
Yes we did and so do you. You are quite free to do any experiment you want.
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Only within the box of public toy science. Plus threat of ridicule is used to keep the students inside the box. Mention zero-point energy and the teacher together with all the other students will laugh at you. Pathetic really.
 
Sword_Of_Truth said:
Stupid @#$% just has one phase.

Guess which one it is?
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What?! No ridicule? Ha! The ridicule is starting to turn into anger: phase two: the idea is violently opposed. I'm winning!!! YES!!! :spooky Palpatine voice: Gooood. I can feel your anger. It gives you focus. Makes you stronger. :D
 
Anders Lindman said:
Several people, but ok not many I admit. 99.999% of all people still believe nuclear weapons are real. Just as when people believed Earth was flat. The difference is that today technology makes information spread much faster.
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It may spread faster but that doesn't make it true. You're still lacking evidence.
 
Anders Lindman said:
Only within the box of public toy science. Plus threat of ridicule is used to keep the students inside the box. Mention zero-point energy and the teacher together with all the other students will laugh at you. Pathetic really.
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I love how every CT's response is "the scientific establishment won't allow it!"

Do you have any idea how much the average research scientist dreams about discovering something new and unexplained? The way to a Nobel Prize, the way to scientific immortality - joining Galileo and Einstein in the pantheon of the ages - is to find something new.

Pretending the "establishment" is preventing the discovery of amazing, earth-shattering principal "X" is hogwash. It's tantamount to saying computer developers don't want to come up with faster, smaller, more efficient devices.
 
bynmdsue said:
Wait, what do you think ZPE is?
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"Zero Point Energy (ZPE), or vacuum fluctuation energy are terms used to describe the random electromagnetic oscillations that are left in a vacuum after all other energy has been removed. If you remove all the energy from a space, take out all the matter, all the heat, all the light... everything -- you will find that there is still some energy left." -- http://www.nasa.gov/centers/glenn/technology/warp/possible.html
 
Robrob said:
I love how every CT's response is "the scientific establishment won't allow it!"

Do you have any idea how much the average research scientist dreams about discovering something new and unexplained? The way to a Nobel Prize, the way to scientific immortality - joining Galileo and Einstein in the pantheon of the ages - is to find something new.

Pretending the "establishment" is preventing the discovery of amazing, earth-shattering principal "X" is hogwash. It's tantamount to saying computer developers don't want to come up with faster, smaller, more efficient devices.
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Yeah, but public science has been deliberately diverted. Just look at the messy superstring and M-theories who's only actual result is making Occam start spinning in his grave. Public science has been led into a false path. Quantum mechanics seems fairly accurate while Einstein's relativity looks like more of a diversion to me.

Knowledge is power. And by keeping the correct knowledge to themselves, the breakaway civilization as Richard Doland calls it can maintain their power and control. There is also another possible reason that is more of the responsible kind; that the knowledge about how to extract zero-point energy for example is too dangerous to be brought into the public. ZPE bombs that would make the alleged nuclear weapons look like firecrackers in comparison in the hands of terrorists is not such a good idea.
 
Anders Lindman said:
Quantum mechanics seems fairly accurate while Einstein's relativity looks like more of a diversion to me.
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We're so grateful to have someone as educated as you to sort these things out for us.

ZPE bombs that would make the alleged nuclear weapons look like firecrackers in comparison in the hands of terrorists is not such a good idea.
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So you are telling us that nukes are fakes, made to conceal the fact that they are really ZPE devices.

... What will they think of next?

Hans
 
Uzzy said:
You, of all people, bring up Occam's Razor? Now I know you're trolling.
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Today's superstring theories are like the epicycle theories in the past: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faqjmAoXpM4

The epicycle theories were based on a false belief that Earth was at the center and the sun, moon, planets and the stars orbited around Earth. Because the foundation was false it led to ever more complicated versions of epicycle theories as an attempt to try to fit observed reality into a false theoretical foundation.

"According to one school of thought in the history of astronomy, minor imperfections in the original Ptolemaic system were discovered through observations accumulated over time. It was mistakenly believed that more levels of epicycles (circles within circles) were added to the models to match more accurately the observed planetary motions." -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deferent_and_epicycle
 
MRC_Hans said:
We're so grateful to have someone as educated as you to sort these things out for us.

So you are telling us that nukes are fakes, made to conceal the fact that they are really ZPE devices.

... What will they think of next?

Hans
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No, I think the nuclear explosions have been made using a lot of conventional explosives.
 
Anders Lindman said:
Today's superstring theories are like the epicycle theories in the past: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faqjmAoXpM4

The epicycle theories were based on a false belief that Earth was at the center and the sun, moon, planets and the stars orbited around Earth. Because the foundation was false it led to ever more complicated versions of epicycle theories as an attempt to try to fit observed reality into a false theoretical foundation.

"According to one school of thought in the history of astronomy, minor imperfections in the original Ptolemaic system were discovered through observations accumulated over time. It was mistakenly believed that more levels of epicycles (circles within circles) were added to the models to match more accurately the observed planetary motions." -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deferent_and_epicycle
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Given that you know nothing at all about nuclear weapons, the Surrender of Japan or the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, let alone anything about physics, what gives you any ability to say anything about superstring theory? Do you have any relevant education or knowledge in any field, Anders?

Getting back to nuclear weapons, have you discovered anything at all about Hiroshima and Nagasaki? What do you think destroyed those two cities?
 
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