Nuclear (i.e. fission and fusion) mythologies and politics

Anders Lindman said:
Me too! All the way until just a year or two ago. I think it's the Internet that makes it possible to start examining these things without the massive centralized control of mainstream media and the education system etc.
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Are you suggesting that every nuclear scientist who believes in nuclear bombs (and that's about all of them) either knows they're a hoax and are covering it up, or are simply brainwashed into believing in them by the mainstream media and education system?

Every single last one of them?
 
Well this actually looks like CG to me. I haven't seen such clean video of that explosion before. Nothing even remotely close. Still you can do such relatively good CGI only just recently. In 50s 60s no way.
 
twinstead said:
Are you suggesting that every nuclear scientist who believes in nuclear bombs (and that's about all of them) either knows they're a hoax and are covering it up, or are simply brainwashed into believing in them by the mainstream media and education system?

Every single last one of them?
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But aren't there very few scientists who actually are experts on nuclear weapons? And even most of those experts probably just calculate with equations and have never seen an actual nuclear explosion with their own eyes.
 
Anders Lindman said:
But aren't there very few scientists who actually are experts on nuclear weapons? And even most of those experts probably just calculate with equations and have never seen an actual nuclear explosion with their own eyes.
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I don't know how many nuclear scientists there are in the world. Probably quite a few among the 6 billion or so people who exist. But, since these scientists have "calculated with equations", do you believe that nuclear weapons are theoretically possible but don't exist for whatever reason, or that even the science behind them is impossible?
 
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twinstead said:
I don't know how many nuclear scientists there are in the world. Probably quite a few among the 6 billion or so people who exist. But, since these scientists have "calculated with equations", do you believe that nuclear weapons are theoretically possible but don't exist for whatever reason, or that even the science behind them is impossible?
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Even the theory about nuclear weapons may be false. I believe for example that Einstein's relativity is a hoax theory.
 
Anders Lindman said:
Even the theory about nuclear weapons may be false. I believe for example that Einstein's relativity is a hoax theory.
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Do you think that the scientists who have studied nuclear theory are not competent enough to realize that it's all false?
 
twinstead said:
Do you think that the scientists who have studied nuclear theory are not competent enough to realize that it's all false?
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Yes, they have been fooled by false results from scientific experiments that show that Einstein's relativity is true. And from that false foundation they continue to build theoretical constructs such as the superstring and M-theories.

I read somewhere that: contrary to many claims in textbooks, no scientific experiment has confirmed that the speed of light is constant relative to a moving source.
 
Anders Lindman said:
There is a gradual scale of how probable I think a conspiracy theory is. The water fuel theory is much less probable to me than the atom bomb hoax theory. That can change if I find new information that supports or falsifies the theories.
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Do you ever change your opinion on anything, though? I mean, 10 seconds of searching would give you more evidence that you'd ever need to debunk virtually all the CTs you pretend to believe in. Try it out. Who knows, you might enjoy debunking some of the sillier one yourself.
 
TheRedWorm said:
Do you ever change your opinion on anything, though? I mean, 10 seconds of searching would give you more evidence that you'd ever need to debunk virtually all the CTs you pretend to believe in. Try it out. Who knows, you might enjoy debunking some of the sillier one yourself.
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Done that. I haven't seen any credible evidence for atom bombs being real.
 
Anders Lindman said:
Yes, they have been fooled by false results from scientific experiments that show that Einstein's relativity is true. And from that false foundation they continue to build theoretical constructs such as the superstring and M-theories.

I read somewhere that: contrary to many claims in textbooks, no scientific experiment has confirmed that the speed of light is constant relative to a moving source.
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Well, I'm no nuclear scientist, but I would assume most of them would disagree with you, and rather vehemently. Can I assume that these scientists don't have access to this internet you speak of that allows one to free oneself from the matrix that is the mainstream media and the education system?
 
Anders Lindman said:
Yes, they have been fooled by false results from scientific experiments that show that Einstein's relativity is true. And from that false foundation they continue to build theoretical constructs such as the superstring and M-theories.
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Citation please.

I read somewhere that: contrary to many claims in textbooks, no scientific experiment has confirmed that the speed of light is constant relative to a moving source.
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Citation please.
 
Anders Lindman said:
Done that. I haven't seen any credible evidence for atom bombs being real.
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I have to assume either that you are lying, or using extreme sophistry to handwave away all evidence. But, just for S&Gs, show us which sources you have used.

ETA: Also, what twinstead said.
 
twinstead said:
Interesting. Exactly what would you consider credible evidence?
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For example hundreds of individual photos of the mushroom clouds over Nagasaki and/or Hiroshima. The Japanese people were very much into photography already back then so a lot of such photos should exist since the clouds would have been visible over huge distances and for a long period of time. Also professional media teams in Japan should have photographed and filmed the mushroom clouds. All I found were a few dubious pictures.
 
TheRedWorm said:
I have to assume either that you are lying, or using extreme sophistry to handwave away all evidence. But, just for S&Gs, show us which sources you have used.

ETA: Also, what twinstead said.
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See my previous post #235. Put that in your pipe and smoke it. I rest my briefcase. :cool:
 
Anders Lindman said:
For example hundreds of individual photos of the mushroom clouds over Nagasaki and/or Hiroshima. The Japanese people were very much into photography already back then so a lot of such photos should exist since the clouds would have been visible over huge distances and for a long period of time. Also professional media teams in Japan should have photographed and filmed the mushroom clouds. All I found were a few dubious pictures.
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Well that would be fine if all you were doing is claiming the Japanese bombs were a hoax. You however are claiming ALL nuclear bombs are a hoax. There are literally thousands of photographs of mushroom clouds and nuclear explosions in the public domain spanning more than 60 years.
 
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Anders Lindman said:
For example hundreds of individual photos of the mushroom clouds over Nagasaki and/or Hiroshima. The Japanese people were very much into photography already back then so a lot of such photos should exist since the clouds would have been visible over huge distances and for a long period of time. Also professional media teams in Japan should have photographed and filmed the mushroom clouds. All I found were a few dubious pictures.
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Maybe because they were fighting a war and they had a dictatorship that wasn't keen on reporting failure? Maybe people were shocked and more concerned with helping survivors? Hell, maybe the radiation damaged the film within the visual range? Also, why would hundreds be necessary? Do you need hundreds of pictures of me to conclude that I was born?
 
TheRedWorm said:
Maybe because they were fighting a war and they had a dictatorship that wasn't keen on reporting failure? Maybe people were shocked and more concerned with helping survivors? Hell, maybe the radiation damaged the film within the visual range? Also, why would hundreds be necessary? Do you need hundreds of pictures of me to conclude that I was born?
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I know that you were born since you wrote that post. That's direct evidence. The mushroom clouds would have been visible for a long time and over vast distances. How far did the alleged radiation spread? How large were the mushroom clouds? Was it clear weather? From how far away would the clouds have been visible? I haven't checked those questions myself since I'm pretty much convinced that the atom bombs are a hoax.
 
twinstead said:
Well that would be fine if all you were doing is claiming the Japanese bombs were a hoax. You however are claiming ALL nuclear bombs are a hoax. There are literally thousands of photographs of mushroom clouds and nuclear explosions in the public domain spanning more than 60 years.
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I haven't seen a single convincing photo or video of any atom bomb explosion.
 
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