Vaccine/autism CT discussion

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abaddon said:
Hang on, there is a conspiracy, but they proceed to publish the results of said claimed conspiracy?
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No, the real cause of the autism has not been published. As I wrote, the mercury was a deliberate smokescreen. First the pharma industry manipulates the public opinion to become aware of that mercury is dangerous, and then they make people aware of that thimerosal in the vaccines contains mercury. In addition they publish a fake scientific article connecting autism to vaccines in the prestigious peer-reviewed medical journal The Lancet. Mercury takes the blame for the cause of the autism and governments manipulate the statistics for autism to hide the correlation with the use of vaccines to not alarm and outrage the public. Later the claim that mercury is causing autism is proved to be false (which was a part of the plan) and vaccines can no longer be blamed for causing autism while in reality the real cause is another substance in the vaccines. In this way the pharma industry creates a protection for themselves and at the same time they can blackmail governments since they have manipulated the autism statistics.
 
The increase in autism has not slowed down even though the mercury in vaccines has been removed for (all?) child vaccines.

http://www.tacanow.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/autism-statistics-2009.jpg

From: http://www.tacanow.org/family-resources/latest-autism-statistics-2/

That's statistics for up to 2009. Here is the shocking number for the statistics today:

"It was formerly believed that one in one hundred children in the United States had an autism spectrum disorder (ASD) (Wallis, 2009). Although this was considered a “stunning statistic” (Wallis, 2009), A recent study by a team of U.S. and South Korean researchers found that approximately one in 38 children has an ASD (Walsh, 2011)." -- http://www.campacademia.com/blog/?p=1595

Governments maybe actually believed the autism rate would go down when they removed the mercury from vaccines and they were taken by surprise when the actual statistics continued to increase. And if they have manipulated the statistics for autism during the time mercury was used in vaccines, they cannot start new research projects trying to find the real connection between vaccines and autism because then the pharma industry will expose the governments. So the pharma industry has the governments by the balls so to speak by having this blackmail tool.
 
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Disclaimer for outrageous speculation :D: A more extreme conspiracy theory is that they put things in the vaccines to on purpose boost the growth of certain neurons in the brain to create super kids. And they only get the wanted effect in a few children while a lot more of them instead develop autism and most of the children are unaffected. This is a secret mad Nazi scientist kind of program as an attempt to create super humans that then later on will be used in black op research projects.
 
Anders Lindman said:
Sure. Denmark didn't remove the mercury for no reason. That is the proof of something possibly dangerous behind mercury in vaccines.
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No, this is not proof of anything about the mercury.

People got scared for no reason. People vote. Politicians want those votes. Politicians pushed to have their unfounded fear accommodated.

If they were scared of a tree because it was supposedly haunted and then the politicians have the military blow up the tree is that proof of haunted trees?
 
Anders Lindman said:
The increase in autism has not slowed down even though the mercury in vaccines has been removed for (all?) child vaccines.
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And that should not be a surprise when you understand that the increase in autism is entirely caused by doctors having increased scope in diagnosing it. There is no actual increase in occurrence.
 
Travis said:
No, this is not proof of anything about the mercury.

People got scared for no reason. People vote. Politicians want those votes. Politicians pushed to have their unfounded fear accommodated.

If they were scared of a tree because it was supposedly haunted and then the politicians have the military blow up the tree is that proof of haunted trees?
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You can't deny that there is SOME reason at least for why Denmark removed the mercury from the vaccines. And: "The discontinuation of thimerosal-containing vaccines in Denmark in 1992 was followed by an increase in the incidence of autism."

Is it a mere coincidence that an increase of autism followed the removal of the mercury?
 
Travis said:
And that should not be a surprise when you understand that the increase in autism is entirely caused by doctors having increased scope in diagnosing it. There is no actual increase in occurrence.
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Do you have any scientific evidence for that? Here is what I found:

"Recent epidemiological surveys of autistic disorder and other PDDs have heightened awareness of and concern about the prevalence of these disorders; however, differences in survey methodology, particularly changes in case definition and case identification over time, have made comparisons between surveys difficult to perform and interpret." -- http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/index.php/the-increase-in-autism-diagnoses-two-hypotheses/

So it seems difficult to really know for sure, or?
 
Or what? A conspiracy involving hundreds of thousands spread over generations and many countries?

If your conspiracy involves more than a handful of people and a relatively short time span it's not likely to remain a secret long - people talk, that is the lesson of history.
 
I currently surmise that increased instances of autism are a generational degradation caused by an accumulation of vaccine residue. The vaccine residue is assumed by the body a failure, a misdirection. Therefore the body, to protect the species, reacts to more and duplicate vaccine with a degree of shock that weakens itself in its environment, making it less likely to succeed.
 
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Clayton Moore said:
I currently surmise that increased instances of autism are a generational degradation caused by an accumulation of vaccine residue. The vaccine residue is assumed by the body a failure, a misdirection. Therefore the body, to protect the species, reacts to more and duplicate vaccine with a degree of shock that weakens itself in its environment, making it less likely to succeed.
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I currently surmise that you have absolutely no clue what you're talking about, and that you should educate yourself using something other than idiotic bloggers as source material before making any further moronic assertions.
 
Border Reiver said:
Or what? A conspiracy involving hundreds of thousands spread over generations and many countries?

If your conspiracy involves more than a handful of people and a relatively short time span it's not likely to remain a secret long - people talk, that is the lesson of history.
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One possible conspiracy is that only very few people handle the actual active ingredients in the vaccines and they could put all kinds of genetically modified viruses in there. lol.
 
Clayton Moore said:
I currently surmise that increased instances of autism are a generational degradation caused by an accumulation of vaccine residue. The vaccine residue is assumed by the body a failure, a misdirection. Therefore the body, to protect the species, reacts to more and duplicate vaccine with a degree of shock that weakens itself in its environment, making it less likely to succeed.
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You're a Lamarckist?
 
I find it fascinating that I can submit a post at 10:04 AM, correct it at 10:05 AM and excaza can quote and lampoon the corrected version by
10:07 AM.

Is there some sort of contest in progress?



I currently surmise that increased instances of autism are a generational degradation caused by an accumulation of vaccine residue. The vaccine residue is assumed by the body a failure, a misdirection and therefore the body, to protect the species, reacts to more and duplicate vaccine with a degree of shock that weakens itself in its environment, making it less likely to succeed.
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I currently surmise that increased instances of autism are a generational degradation caused by an accumulation of vaccine residue. The vaccine residue is assumed by the body a failure, a misdirection. Therefore the body, to protect the species, reacts to more and duplicate vaccine with a degree of shock that weakens itself in its environment, making it less likely to succeed.
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excaza said:
I currently surmise that you have absolutely no clue what you're talking about, and that you should educate yourself using something other than idiotic bloggers as source material before making any further moronic assertions.
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Can someone please advise me as to whether or not excaza is being uncivil towards me?

As for parroting others I am as right brained as it gets.

Vaccines in moderation. Think about it. How do we know how a baby reacted to a vaccine?
 
Anders Lindman said:
One possible conspiracy is that only very few people handle the actual active ingredients in the vaccines and they could put all kinds of genetically modified viruses in there. lol.
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Vaccinations in a variety of forms have been around for over 200 years, that's a lot of covering up to do.
 
Border Reiver said:
Vaccinations in a variety of forms have been around for over 200 years, that's a lot of covering up to do.
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There are several possible scenarios ranging from vaccines being a conspiracy already from the beginning to vaccines only being used for conspiracy purposes the last decades/years. Or no conspiracy at all.
 
Border Reiver said:
Vaccinations in a variety of forms have been around for over 200 years, that's a lot of covering up to do.
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While vaccines are relatively new, inoculations are not. So you've got another few thousand years of conspiracy.
 
Anders Lindman said:
You can't deny that there is SOME reason at least for why Denmark removed the mercury from the vaccines.
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Yeah, that reason would be ignorance.

Anders Lindman said:
And: "The discontinuation of thimerosal-containing vaccines in Denmark in 1992 was followed by an increase in the incidence of autism."

Is it a mere coincidence that an increase of autism followed the removal of the mercury?
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Yes. It is mere coincidence.
 
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