Occupy Wall Street better defend its identity

[Pardalis]

Well that's a pretty stupid thing to post. The guy's most likely getting fired, and now some whacko is going to go to his house and probably try to kill him.


Just for being an idiot.
Well done.

It's mob mentality. It's too difficult for some people to go through legal avenues to make a complaint, some people prefer to take the law in their own hands.

 

[JihadJane]

Well that's a pretty stupid thing to post. The guy's most likely getting fired, and now some whacko is going to go to his house and probably try to kill him.


Just for being an idiot.
Well done.

No one killed Buncha Bologna yet.

 

[IDB87]

The problem (and the reason they're going to fail) is that they have no support and no coherent agenda.

Which is the problem in protesting in the first place. What is their objective? What is their reasoning for disrupting campus peace?

 

[leftysergeant]

If the violence is legally or morally justified, what exactly is your complaint?

Torture is never morally justified.

 

[Brainster]

Farm Obamaville? That's part of a deal LA is offering to their Occupiers:

Los Angeles officials have offered Occupy L.A. protesters a package of incentives that includes downtown office space and farmland in an attempt to persuade them to abandon their camp outside of City Hall, according to several demonstrators who have been in negotiations with the city.

The details of the proposal were revealed Monday during the demonstration's nightly general assembly meeting by Jim Lafferty, an attorney with the National Lawyers Guild who has been advocating on behalf of the protest since it began seven weeks ago.

No surprise, the Occutards are upset that somebody is negotiating a deal with the city on their behalf:

"I don't appreciate people appointing themselves to represent me, to represent us," one woman called out during the assembly. "Who was in those meetings?"

 

[NoahFence]

No one killed Buncha Bologna yet.

Oh, well that's fine then.



It should not be posted. Period.

 

[NoahFence]

"I don't appreciate people appointing themselves to represent me, to represent us," one woman called out during the assembly. "Who was in those meetings?"

It wouldn't matter who was in the meeting. These blazing idiots have already shown a distain for people on their side.

They're the reason the term "clueless" was coined.

 

[Pardalis]

Inciting violence and prejudicial action against an individual is criminal.

When they say "call him" it is evident that they are asking for retribution.

 

[Howie Felterbush]

Farm Obamaville? That's part of a deal LA is offering to their Occupiers:

This won't fly with these idiots.

Farming is difficult work. Drum circles won't make the corn grow.

 

[JihadJane]

Oh, well that's fine then.



It should not be posted. Period.

How likely do you think it is that someone will try to kill John Pike?

ETA: How likely do you think it is that Pike will get fired? Buncha Bologna, not just a grunt obeying orders like Pike, lost just ten days vacation (or equivalent pay) for arguably even worse, multiple attacks.

 

[Neally]

Torture is never morally justified.

So says the expert on all things military, yet fails to accept that all police departments approve of the use of pepper spray for crowd control.

 

[Pardalis]

How likely do you think it is that someone will try to kill John Pike?

And how likely is someone going to actually get through and talk to him (and say what, BTW)?

Or is this call to "call him" really about doing something else, something potentially criminal?

 

[Taarkin]

Which is the root of the problem silly.

Well technically the root of the problem is the recession and Washington fatcats etc etc

I'd appreciate correlation. Which things were OWS Davis complaining about on campus that weren't about tuition hikes, and how is it relevant to the university?

Umm, invest a little bit of time into understanding the occupiers' ideas before claiming to divine their intentions?
http://occupydavis.org/ maybe? I didn't find anything there that declared the movement to be about only defying authority and not for the advancement of the OWS cause.

Try re-reading it.

I was confused here; I thought that you cited that quote and page in an attempt to backs up your claim that the ONLY reasons the tents were set up was to defy authority and not for any advancement of the OWS cause, and I couldn't find anything saying that. Rather, the page offers some things besides defiance for its own sake.

Your defense is based on general defiance for the (undefined) Greater Good, of which you sympathize.

If the existence of tents does not affect support, why use them instead of the other acts of defiance they could have done?

 

[NoahFence]

How likely do you think it is that someone will try to kill John Pike?

ETA: How likely do you think it is that Pike will get fired? Buncha Bologna, not just a grunt obeying orders like Pike, lost just ten days vacation (or equivalent pay) for arguably even worse, multiple attacks.

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I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but teh interwebz are used by a great many people, some of which are certifiably insane (See the 9/11 Conspiracy Forum).

A woman about 500 miles away from Florida had a passing resemblance to Casey Anthony and was almost murdered for it. This guy actually did something stupid. So maybe I should ask you - how likely is it that some nut hasn't thought of using that information to find him?

 

[Taarkin]

How utterly delusional.

Huh. I must be imagining all the advancement is civil rights, human welfare, and social justice that took place. Go tell a black guy in a restaurant, a woman making the same wage as her male counterpart, or a single mother on food stamps that 60s and 70s activists didn't accomplish anything.
The fact that they achieved so much is precisely why their achievements must be denied; people must be made to forget that a bunch of folks working together for a common cause can accomplish something.

 

[portlandatheist]

How likely do you think it is that someone will try to kill John Pike?

ETA: How likely do you think it is that Pike will get fired? Buncha Bologna, not just a grunt obeying orders like Pike, lost just ten days vacation (or equivalent pay) for arguably even worse, multiple attacks.

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Not likely. John Pike is probably just an agent provocateur infiltrating with the purpose of discrediting the police department.

 

[bookitty]

The school has protest zones for a reason. If you think the protests should be as obtrusive as possible, you should just say so.

Please explain to Schrodinger's Cat why you believe she should be inconvenienced.

Please explain why you are using anecdotes as data.

 

[IDB87]

Umm, invest a little bit of time into understanding the occupiers' ideas before claiming to divine their intentions?
http://occupydavis.org/ maybe?

I did:

We are a community group formed in solidarity with the global occupation movement.

We protest a variety of social and economic inequalities and injustices.

Our methods are non-violent.

We believe that the government should listen to people, not money.

We are a democratic, leaderless organization run by consensus at general assemblies.

We are students, teachers, faculty, staff, city workers, activists, unemployed and concerned citizens.

We do not align ourselves with any political parties.

We are united by a desire to make radical change.

Couldn't be more vague. So what's their purpose again?

 

[IDB87]

Please explain why you are using anecdotes as data.

First, address this:

The school has protest zones for a reason. If you think the protests should be as obtrusive as possible, you should just say so.

Second, it's more of an invitation to discuss the actual impact of these campus occupations with someone who experienced it firsthand. Take or leave it.

 

[IDB87]

people must be made to forget that a bunch of folks working together for a common cause can accomplish something.

So what is OWS trying to accomplish?