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abysmally far right-wing whackos blame illegal immigrants for all the ills of american society.
blame the poor and not the rich, is their mantra.

Better the whackos of any wing than Maoist policies like The Great Leap Forward, which killed 30 million people....all poor.
 
abysmally far right-wing whackos blame illegal immigrants for all the ills of american society.
blame the poor and not the rich, is their mantra.
Read it again. I blame employers and the government that allows them to get away with it.
 
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I wonder why communists hate the poor so much? In communist revolutions it's always the poor that suffer while the wealthy elite in the politburos continue to live the good life. How many pizza ovens and BMWs does Kim Jong Il have?
 
I wonder why communists hate the poor so much? In communist revolutions it's always the poor that suffer while the wealthy elite in the politburos continue to live the good life. How many pizza ovens and BMWs does Kim Jong Il have?
A palace for Fidel, crumbling concrete huts and food rations for the peasants.
 
I wonder why communists hate the poor so much? In communist revolutions it's always the poor that suffer while the wealthy elite in the politburos continue to live the good life. How many pizza ovens and BMWs does Kim Jong Il have?

Not only that, but dear leader has his own private golf course which he shot 30something under par on and a great big yacht which he keeps in a lake while his subjects forage for "wild food"
 
Not only that, but dear leader has his own private golf course which he shot 30something under par on and a great big yacht which he keeps in a lake while his subjects forage for "wild food"

Kim Jong Ill is a brainworker. The whole management and organisation of the nation depends on him. Day and night he is watching over their welfare. It is for THEIR sake that he drinks that milk and eats those apples.
 
Read it again. I blame employers and the government that allows them to get away with it.

Immigration reform is whole different topic, one that deserves it's own thread. The basics - getting rid of all illegal immigrants would not mean a huge glut of jobs. Illegal workers do depress the wages of the low-end work force but foreign-born workers are primarily affected. The cost of illegal immigration is often inflated to include the American born children of immigrants who are American citizens. Agriculture is reliant on immigrant workers, not just for low wages but because American won't do the job. The cost of immigration is partially offset by benefits. Not entirely because it's a social problem that has been dealt with in piecemeal fashion. It's not a "build a fence" or "kick 'em all out!" issue.

But it's cool that you support more government regulation.
 
'"Corporate America Is Using Our Police Departments As Hired Thugs" Ret Police Captain Ray Lewis'



An interesting interview, in which Lewis also talks about what it's like for the police to face protestors, the fight or flight response and the importance of having "White Shirts" to supervise and intervene when police on the front line become overwhelmed by the fight response.

The Occupy protests, however, he comments, have been characterized by White Shirts joining in with the violence [even initiating it - JJ] rather intervening to maintain professional conduct.

He says he was inspired to "assist the movement" by the altruistic conviction the occupiers have for social justice.
 
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Oh hey! This is a nice start. An amendment by Rep. Ted Deutch to overturn citizens united, and get corporate influence out of our elections. Sweet title, too.

Outlawing Corporate Cash Undermining the Public Interest in our Elections and Democracy (OCCUPIED)
http://teddeutch.house.gov/UploadedFiles/DEUTCH_036_xml.pdf

You do realize that this amendment is actually self-contradictory, don't you? It claims that freedom of the press will be maintained, then details various ways in which freedom of the press would be eliminated. Horrible, horrible amendment. It's basically a blank check for Congress to set whatever rules it wants to to govern its own elections. How naive do you have to be to think that the rules they write when given such unfettered power are really going to benefit anyone other than incumbents?
 
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