Herman Cain leads by 20 points!

mhaze said:
Well, DUHHHH....

You made the allusion to the Birther stuff

Huh???? I just explained why one guy is a 100% American black and another isn't, either by virtue of being half black, African dad, growing up outside the US, you can take your pick.

No birther stuff there.
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More like birther lite. Such as the gross distortions I called you on previously that you have yet to acknowledge.
 
Woo! C'mon Newt!

The Tea Party (and does that mean the Kochs?) are fleeing from Cain in droves and appear to be shifting to Gingrich. What's the over/under on Newt imploding? He's actually been laying back and looking like the voice of reason.

What I see is that Romney has remained pretty steady at his numbers througout and every month This Week's Model dances around some slightly higher numbers only to crap out when they get scrutinized. When Newt's four weeks on the bubble come up, he'll just irk the **** out of someone with his cockiness and it'll be back to the pack for him, too.

Romney's fighting a war of attrition. They keep making a run at him, but no one has the legs. I think they're falling back toward's Newt because he's at least a known entity, but they're forgetting why he's a known entity.
 
Spindrift said:
Because the Republicans black guy is a real black guy and the Democrats black guy is only half black and a foreigner too.

That's non-rhetorical as well as non-sensible, but you didn't ask for something that makes sense.
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i.e. sexual predator
 
TimCallahan said:
Going back this morning to the site I've been using, I found the following poll average results:

Romney 22.5%
Cain 22.0
Gingrich 14.2
Perry 9.8
Paul 8.2
Bachmann 3.7
Santorum 1.5
Huntsman 1.0
Undecided (by implication) 17.1

What's notable is that Romney is now, by a mere 0.5%, in the lead, and that Perry continues to fade. After his failure to debate effectively at one point, sounding like he was drunk at another appearance and his inability to name the third cabinet department he wanted to gut in his most recent gaff, that's not surprising. I predict that Perry will continue to fade, eventually dropping down to the inconsequential level of Bachmann, Santorum and Huntsman.

This will leave Romney and Cain as the front runners, with Gingrich and Paul as potential kingmakers. Right now, if Gingrich and Huntsman support Romney, he'll have 37.7%. If Perry, Bachman and Santorum support Cain, he'll have 37.0%. If Paul supports either candidate, both candidates would still not have 50+%.

Of course, as I've noted before, this all may be inconsequential. I would personally love to see the GOP rip itself apart with an unresolvable Romney / Cain schism. However, I doubt it will come to that.
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You make it sound like the supporters of the fading candidates will automatically go to any endorsed candidate. A more telling poll is the voters second choice. Often that would be Romney.
 
Tricky said:
Something Jon Stewart said last night about the debate was very good. This bit got lost in the hilarity over the Perils of Perry, but Herman Cain, who is already accused of treating women as sex objects, calls Nancy Pelosi "Princess". This is a step WAY over the line, and would be equivalent to calling him "Uncle Tom". I honestly don't see how any woman could ever vote for this person.
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Which raises the broader question, “Just who are the Cain supporters?”
I suspect they are members of the Tea Party who hate the media.
 
mhaze said:
Well, DUHHHH....

You made the allusion to the Birther stuff

Huh???? I just explained why one guy is a 100% American black and another isn't, either by virtue of being half black, African dad, growing up outside the US, you can take your pick.

No birther stuff there.
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Cain probable is not %100 American black. Most southern blacks have some White and American Indian DNA.
 
MaGZ said:
Which raises the broader question, “Just who are the Cain supporters?”
I suspect they are members of the Tea Party who hate the media.
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I don't doubt that a lot of the non-racist part of the Tea Party is behind Cain. After all, they like simplistic solutions and slogans instead of policy. I think that many believe that the fact that Cain is black will make him attractive to blacks and liberals too. Nobody ever accused the Tea Party of being very observant.
 
Tricky said:
I don't doubt that a lot of the non-racist part of the Tea Party is behind Cain. After all, they like simplistic solutions and slogans instead of policy. I think that many believe that the fact that Cain is black will make him attractive to blacks and liberals too. Nobody ever accused the Tea Party of being very observant.
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In your opinion, what percentage of the Tea Party is racist? (meaning never will vote for a black guy)
 
MaGZ said:
You make it sound like the supporters of the fading candidates will automatically go to any endorsed candidate. A more telling poll is the voters second choice. Often that would be Romney.
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Except that it's not. The shift is to Newt. Romney's been fairly steady throughout the entire "campaign" (because I can't think of a single word for 'riotously funny infighting for the chance to lose to that colored fella in the White House').

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep.../republican_presidential_nomination-1452.html

Check out the graph. The purple line is Romney. Now note the rise and fall of the blue line (Perry) and the red line (Cain) and the recent move upwards of the green line (Newt). And note that Newt's upswing exactly coincides with Cain's downward movement over the past week. Perry's flirtation with the lead seems to coincide with a down-trend for Romney, but the others do not.


Fellow smartasses: (insert gratuitous joke here about MaGZ probably not wanting to look at a "colored" monitor. ha ha ha.)
 
mhaze said:
Have it your way. Obama's a 100% AMerican Black.

And I'm Nancy Drew.
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What, you shovel so much BS that you can't keep track? This is the gross distortion I was referring to:

mhaze said:
His childhood and teenage years were outside the US.
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He lived in Indonesia for 4 years starting at age 6, period end of story.
 
varwoche said:
What, you shovel so much BS that you can't keep track? This is the gross distortion I was referring to:

He lived in Indonesia for 4 years starting at age 6, period end of story.
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I'll accept that correction to "childhood and teenage years", so assuming they are 1-16, the correction is 75% of my statement.

But I made 3 points, so you are batting 0.75 out of 3.
 
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