Herman Cain leads by 20 points!

According to the site I've been going to regularly, Cain still holds the lead in Republican polls, despite the sex scandals.
 
Tricky said:
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Lots of coverage of Cain/Obama would benefit Cain.
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It would certainly help his book sales.
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It was good enough reason for Obama to run
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Yep. Being actually elected threw a big wrench in his plans to make megabucks in the book market.
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Barack Obama declares $5.5m income in 2009 Most of earnings came from book sales....

A nice liitle earner while he goes golfing.

And the imaginings of a failed presidential candidate about his deadbeat dad wouldn't exactly be leaping out of the remainder bin.
 
TimCallahan said:
According to the site I've been going to regularly, Cain still holds the lead in Republican polls, despite the sex scandals.
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If you want to use RCP it's usually advisable to look at the trending. The three most recent polls show Romney, Romney, Tie. He'll continue the downwards trend, IMHO. None of those are from later in this week when the accusations were rising.
 
Ladewig said:
Non-rhetorical question: Why is Cain the Democratic nightmare?
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Because the Republicans black guy is a real black guy and the Democrats black guy is only half black and a foreigner too.

That's non-rhetorical as well as non-sensible, but you didn't ask for something that makes sense.
 
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Spindrift said:
Because the Republicans black guy is a real black guy and the Democrats black guy is only half black and a foreigner too.

That's non-rhetorical as well as non-sensible, but you didn't ask for something that makes sense.
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I do appreciate the promptness of your answer.

And I do appreciate that while that position is not that of the majority of Republicans, it is a position held by a not insignificant percentage of Republicans.

I was, however, hoping for JudeBrando to explain his assertion.
 
Going back this morning to the site I've been using, I found the following poll average results:

Romney 22.5%
Cain 22.0
Gingrich 14.2
Perry 9.8
Paul 8.2
Bachmann 3.7
Santorum 1.5
Huntsman 1.0
Undecided (by implication) 17.1

What's notable is that Romney is now, by a mere 0.5%, in the lead, and that Perry continues to fade. After his failure to debate effectively at one point, sounding like he was drunk at another appearance and his inability to name the third cabinet department he wanted to gut in his most recent gaff, that's not surprising. I predict that Perry will continue to fade, eventually dropping down to the inconsequential level of Bachmann, Santorum and Huntsman.

This will leave Romney and Cain as the front runners, with Gingrich and Paul as potential kingmakers. Right now, if Gingrich and Huntsman support Romney, he'll have 37.7%. If Perry, Bachman and Santorum support Cain, he'll have 37.0%. If Paul supports either candidate, both candidates would still not have 50+%.

Of course, as I've noted before, this all may be inconsequential. I would personally love to see the GOP rip itself apart with an unresolvable Romney / Cain schism. However, I doubt it will come to that.
 
JoeTheJuggler said:
Are you implying that Obama is not an actual American? An actual black?

Have you seen Cain's long form birth certificate? If not, how do you actually know he's an actual American black?
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For that matter, how do we know that mhaze is an actual American citizen? Why hasn't he produced his long form birth certificate here?

What is mhaze hiding?!! :jaw-dropp





;)
 
You all realize that the only point to Cain, Perry, Bachmann and Santorum running is to make Romney seam reasonable by comparison.
 
MattusMaximus said:
For that matter, how do we know that mhaze is an actual American citizen? Why hasn't he produced his long form birth certificate here?

What is mhaze hiding?!! :jaw-dropp





;)
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My birth cert was lost in the Chicago courthouse fire in the 1950s.

So you ain't gonna see it.

:)
 
mhaze said:
My birth cert was lost in the Chicago courthouse fire in the 1950s.

So you ain't gonna see it.

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Doesn't answer my question. What do you mean by saying that Cain "is an actual American black"? Are you implying (still) that Obama wasn't?

And how do you know Cain is (if Obama's status as a natural born citizen was ever in doubt)? Have you seen his long form birth certificate? You made the allusion to the Birther stuff, so I'm looking for some consistency in standards wrt the current crop of GOP candidates.
 
Alferd_Packer said:
You all realize that the only point to Cain, Perry, Bachmann and Santorum running is to make Romney seam reasonable by comparison.
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If that were the case, it's a bad strategy. Now that the far-right has a bunch of nutjobs willing to say (and in some cases mean) everything they want to hear, Romney has to say crazy things to compete for their vote, like that he's in favor of an amendment making a fertilized egg a person. Then when he realizes that what he said won't play well in a general election he has to backpedal, further reinforcing the narrative that he's a flip-flopper.

-Bri
 
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Something Jon Stewart said last night about the debate was very good. This bit got lost in the hilarity over the Perils of Perry, but Herman Cain, who is already accused of treating women as sex objects, calls Nancy Pelosi "Princess". This is a step WAY over the line, and would be equivalent to calling him "Uncle Tom". I honestly don't see how any woman could ever vote for this person.
 
JoeTheJuggler said:
Doesn't answer my question. ....
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Well, DUHHHH....

You made the allusion to the Birther stuff

Huh???? I just explained why one guy is a 100% American black and another isn't, either by virtue of being half black, African dad, growing up outside the US, you can take your pick.

No birther stuff there.
 
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