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JFK Conspiracy Theories: It Never Ends

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Robert Prey said:
Like the rest of your Amen chorus, you are long on accusations, and short of specifics. Name one witness I have cited who you claim is lying or mis-quoted, or changed story and prove it. Just one. I'm sure I'll be waiting till hell freezes over.
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1) Nobody has made an accusation, so stop making straw man attacks. The "Amen Chorus" simply points out that any witness can be wrong, lie, etc.
2) I assume you understand that, because you make exactly those claims about any evidence that does not match your version of events.
3) The burden of proof is on you, to supply material evidence to support the testemonials, because there are other witnesses who contradict them.
 
Robert Prey said:
Shot from the Grassy Knoll-- Proved. Again​

I know this is useless to those who refuse to accept the plain truth, even when it's so obvious, but I'm going to point out one more time with specific examples of how the frontal impact of that fatal bullet to the right temple had to create a jet effect of blood and tissue. This is what must happen as you can see in the following slow-motion video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfDoQwIAaXg
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Wow. You know what "proved" means right? How does that small amount of blowback equate to the mass ejection in the Z film? Where exactly is the massive exit wound described in the statements you quoted?
 
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Robert Prey said:
Shot from the Grassy Knoll-- Proved. Again​

I know this is useless to those who refuse to accept the plain truth, even when it's so obvious, but I'm going to point out one more time with specific examples of how the frontal impact of that fatal bullet to the right temple had to create a jet effect of blood and tissue. This is what must happen as you can see in the following slow-motion video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfDoQwIAaXg
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Wouldn't it have been great if he had made an attempt to replicate a bullet hitting a skull with a brain and skin?

What did you think of the jet effect blowing out the back of the plate at 23 seconds?
 
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Wow! Those shots at about 3:30 look just like what happened to the right front of Kennedy's head in the Zapruder film!

Well done, Robert. Hope you have a speedy recovery from the gunshot wound to your foot. LOL!
 
Robert Prey said:
Shot from the Grassy Knoll-- Proved. Again​

I know this is useless to those who refuse to accept the plain truth, even when it's so obvious, but I'm going to point out one more time with specific examples of how the frontal impact of that fatal bullet to the right temple had to create a jet effect of blood and tissue. This is what must happen as you can see in the following slow-motion video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfDoQwIAaXg
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You have got to be kidding.

You pull up a movie of bullets hitting a STEEL PLATE and mushrooming and say the same thing must have happened to JFK's head? Talk about hard-headed! In other cases where the bullet both mushrooms and penetrates the penetration spray dwarfs the mushroom despite having much less material than the human brain.

hey! What's that happening at 24 seconds when the bullet does penetrate the steel. OOOPS!

Look at 0:39, WHAT's THAT?

This is impressive images, but not remotely proof of anything. There is no mention of what kind of bullets are being used, what material is being struck. Its a bunch of cool images, but not proof of anything.

You trying to use this as proof is stundie worthy.
 
RoboTimbo said:
Wouldn't it have been great if he had made an attempt to replicate a bullet hitting a skull with a brain and skin?

What did you think of the jet effect blowing out the back of the plate at 23 seconds?
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Or gave some indication of comparative range, speed, calibre, etc.
 
RoboTimbo said:
Wouldn't it have been great if he had made an attempt to replicate a bullet hitting a skull with a brain and skin?
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A predictable response. Perhaps the only valid example for you would be to have a live subject have a bullet shot into his head. Any volunteers?
 
Robert Prey said:
A predictable response. Perhaps the only valid example for you would be to have a live subject have a bullet shot into his head. Any volunteers?
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What with whacking yourself in the thumb and shooting yourself in the foot, I'd say we have plenty of injuries in the thread already. What ever will you do next, Robert?
 
Robert Prey said:
Like the rest of your Amen chorus, you are long on accusations, and short of specifics. Name one witness I have cited who you claim is lying or mis-quoted, or changed story and prove it. Just one. I'm sure I'll be waiting till hell freezes over.
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How about you concentrate on showing why we shouldn't believe what is clearly shown in the Zapruder film. Without that film, witness testimony would be critical. As it is, the Zapruder film gives us all the evidence we need. Three shots. From the book depository.
 
Reading further, I don't believe Robert needs to be debunked. He does that admirably by himself.

:D
 
By the way, just seen the trailer for the missing bullet show on Nat Geo. You know the one that has the previously unseen footage of LHO lining up a shot from the TSBD. I think I may have to watch with interest.
 
And The Winner Is...

EventHorizon said:
I'm still trying to figure out which of the statements to nominate for a Stundie though. There are way too many to choose from.
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Robert is a leading contender in the November Stundie Nominations and he has my vote hands down.

Stundies just seem to drop out of the sky when he takes fingers to keyboard. It's a talent of sorts, though not one we probably want to encourage.
 
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Robert Prey said:
Shot from the Grassy Knoll-- Proved. Again​

I know this is useless to those who refuse to accept the plain truth, even when it's so obvious, but I'm going to point out one more time with specific examples of how the frontal impact of that fatal bullet to the right temple had to create a jet effect of blood and tissue. This is what must happen as you can see in the following slow-motion video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfDoQwIAaXg
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Uhhh. If this isn't a joke, then can you point out which impact specifically supports your back-spatter hypothesis?
 
matt.tansy said:
Uhhh. If this isn't a joke, then can you point out which impact specifically supports your back-spatter hypothesis?
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The very first one will do. And I believe the "joke" is on the hopeless, head in sand Lone Nutters.
 
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