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Psychic Sally morgan caught cheating?

On opposite sides of the "pond" we have Sally Morgan and Noreen Renier. Both make similar claims and have many supporters. But too many on-stage performances have ultimately allowed people to view live their "unedited and heavily scripted TV" Utopian and spotless versions. And the realities of seeing first hand the unedited truth isn't going well. Critics must not forget however the production companies behind the TV versions and the enormous profits in play.
 
From her lawyer's email:

For the sake of clarity, Sally Morgan has instructed us to take libel proceedings, if necessary, in relation to allegations that she is a cheat. Doing your test or any other test is not part of our plans for this case. You have been involved in a libel case yourself. You well know that we all have far more important things to do than take part in this or any other “test” at this point. She will not attend at Liverpool or at any other time. Maybe you and your friends can prove she is a cheat and/or a fraud instead.

Surely the best way to prove she isn't a cheat and/or a fraud is to take an impartial scientific test like the one being proposed and pass it? :confused:
 
From her lawyer's email part 2.
She will not attend at Liverpool or at any other time. Maybe you and your friends can prove she is a cheat and/or a fraud instead. I know she isn’t, and I have known Sally a good few years.

Hmm a lawyer who knows a genuine psychic.he is Victor Zammit and I claim my five pounds :D
 
Lawyer's possibly got form.

By the way, am I right in thinking that you also acted in a libel case for Dr Gillian McKeith? If so, I would have hoped that you would have developed a natural curiosity about the importance of claims being evidence-based, and that you would be able to see the benefits of scientific rigour in order to get to the truth.
 
Lawyer's possibly got form.

A charming but - forgive me - obscure blogger called PhDiva made some relatively innocent comments about nutritionists, mentioning McKeith, and received a letter threatening costly legal action from Atkins Solicitors, "the reputation and brand-management specialists". Google received a threatening legal letter simply for linking to - forgive me - a fairly obscure webpage on McKeith.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2007/feb/12/advertising.food

I don't know if that's the same firm as Atkins Thompson in this case.

On Friday evening, I received an email from Sally Morgan’s solicitor, Graham Atkins of Atkins Thomson. He has “17 years experience in the legal aspects of the media, reputation management and branding industries”
http://slsingh.posterous.com/sally-morgans-lawyer-sends-me-an-email

I suspect it is.
 
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I have found that psychics who call out their attorneys are generally paranoid, protecting erected facades hiding the truth, arrogant, delusional or at least two of the four.
 
Via Simon Singh on Twitter within the last hour:

Psychic Sally Challenge is going ahead. We hope she changes her mind. Room full, so only come if you've already notified MerseysideSkeptics

http://twitter.com/#!/SLSingh


Hopefully the room will be full of journalists ready to fully explain the likely reasons for her (expected) non-appearance.
 
Derren Brown pens a few words about Sally Morgan in his recent blog.

Source: http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2011/10/testing-psychics/#more-17288

I thought I would pen a few words about the high-profile test offered to Sally Morgan by Simon Singh, Chris French and the Merseyside Skeptics tomorrow Monday. It looks like Sally has declined to take part, but their offer is open to conduct a fair test or at least discuss the test with her to make sure both they and her are happy with it.

Simon Singh, along with other sceptics, has had concerns about Sally and published them here on his blog. I add, as does he, that I am not saying that Sally is a fake or a fraud. I’d really like to think that she’s not, but reserve all judgement. I don’t know her and have never seen her show, on TV or on stage. Even if I had, my opinion about her would mean very little, and I’m sure she could give a flying doughnut about what I had to say. Really the only worthwhile point is whether claims such as Sally’s stand up to testing, not what I or any other individual with our own inevitable prejudices happens to think.

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Or maybe she’ll have better things to do.
D.
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I don’t know her and have never seen her show, on TV or on stage. Even if I had, my opinion about her would mean very little,
Yet according to Sally's camp he has tested her for his television show. Ok he doesnt say he hasn't met her but curious still no reply on the matter.
 
Yet according to Sally's camp he has tested her for his television show. Ok he doesnt say he hasn't met her but curious still no reply on the matter.

From Derren's blog post (in fact, the very paragraph after that one!)

Until recently, I thought I had never met her, but I have since heard rather excitingly that I may have filmed an unused sequence with Sally once at her home. If I did, it would have been for one of those old Mind Control specials ten or so years ago. I have my team looking into that to see if we ever did and if they can dig it out. Certainly we filmed with one lady psychic at her house, where we each gave each other a reading, so perhaps that was it.
 
Now that you've pointed this out. It does seem very very odd. Surely, he's heard of her? Or seen her on tv, or in the papers in the past. Haven't we all, even though we are not fans.

I'm thinking maybe it's definitely not true then, what her son-in-law/Tour Manager said. (That she'd been tested by Derren Brown and passed the tests). If Derren had filmed her years ago, he would surely remember that, or have at least a vague recollection of her? Surprised that he's asked his team to even bother looking through old footage.
 
Thanks for that KeriKiwi. Also, it's just occurred to me, if it was as long as ten years ago, perhaps she was then known as Michelle West (her real name). So he wouldn't perhaps recall Sally Morgan as we know her now. Oooh! So maybe there could be some footage...
 
I'm thinking maybe it's definitely not true then, what her son-in-law/Tour Manager said. (That she'd been tested by Derren Brown and passed the tests).
If they "gave each other readings" she may have considered the fact that hers was as accurate as you'd expect it to be even if she didn't have any paranormal powers as "passing the test". Few psychics have any notion of what's actually required to test their abilities in a way that produces meaningful results.
 

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