Psychic Sally morgan caught cheating?

[Rrose Selavy]

Sally didn't have a clue, fishing for names, either people were saying no, or no one in the audience knew of who she was talking about.. She mentioned Mark, Jean and a man who lost a finger, Hang on, these 3 spirits must have been at Wimbledon theatre on april 2011, because somebody has wrote about it on that review, also, quite a few are mentioned, throughout this review page,.... that also turned up at worthing

Does the above indicate as Richard Wisemen suggested, that she works to a script?
http://www.ents24.com/web/contributions.html?pagetype=artist&pageid=112520&orderby=recent

 

[Reno]

http://slsingh.posterous.com/thats-entertainment-or-an-experiment-or-neith

 

[thenigotoffthebus]

http://slsingh.posterous.com/thats-entertainment-or-an-experiment-or-neith

Thanks for the link. I'd be very surprised if Sally Morgan ever agrees to the test they come up with. I think the best we can hope for is the proposed test is simple, fair & well publicised. That way at least some believers/fence sitters may have to question why she wouldn't take such a test. Perhaps something along the lines of written readings for 10 of her fans then if 6/10 can identify their own reading afterwards she passes. Something that should be a piece of cake if she really has the powers she claims but simple enough for it to make sense & seem fair to her target audience.

 

[snuffkin]

It's a shame that many sceptics out there are criticising and being negative about Simon suggesting the test. Saying that it's pointless or just a publicity stunt. At least he's nothing to do SOMETHING to keep this is the public eye. If it were not for him this story would totally have faded away and that would just be lovely for Sally, she could go back to her usual smugness and enjoy the sell out tours and cash rolling in. I also doubt she will accept any invitation for a test, but surely by her publicly declining it that itself sends out a big message about her abilities and it may just make a few fans lose confidence in her and start to show their disappointment by not going to shows in future. They might also express that they feel let down in their comments on her fb wall, which at the moment are all so sickening because they put her up on such a pedestal and practically see her as God! Sally herself has also said before on one of her shows, "I WANT to be tested, because I'm the real deal!" . so it will be enjoyable for her to have to squirm out of simon's invitation.

 

[SezMe]

http://slsingh.posterous.com/thats-entertainment-or-an-experiment-or-neith

Man, was that ever carefully written. It read like he had 87 lawyers looking over his shoulder on every keystroke.

 

[Lamuella]

Man, was that ever carefully written. It read like he had 87 lawyers looking over his shoulder on every keystroke.

if there's anyone in the public eye who knows the dangers of saying something that a massive idiot might find actionable, it's Simon Singh.

 

[Worm]

And he nicely got the 'not a jot of evidence' wording in there

 

[dlorde]

The idea of complaints to Trading Standards seems like an interesting route for positive action...

 

[zooterkin]

Man, was that ever carefully written. It read like he had 87 lawyers looking over his shoulder on every keystroke.

To be fair, it may just be his natural style to be cautious, although clearly he would have been influenced further in that direction by his experiences with the BCA. Speaking off-the-cuff last Thursday about it, he presented the information in much the same way. He's not, for example, leaping to the conclusion that the overheard conversations at the back of the theatre prove that Sally is receiving information via an earpiece. There are other possible explanations, and he is trying to gather more information.

Also, if he wants to get Sally to respond to any request to take part in a test, dismissing her claims outright is probably not the best strategy.

 

[Reno]

Morgan will never be tested, that's pretty much a certainty. I'm sure Simon Singh knows this and will be focusing his writings on exposing her failure to be tested. Continual publicity about her failure to even take a test is the only way to reduce her clientbase/shows/income and hopefully her smugness. Putting any real effort into arranging a test with this psychic is a complete waste of time.

 

[Azrael 5]

A bit dissapointed in Singh's latest blog, very "On the fence".
More furore on Sally's FB although it seems most of negative comments have been removed already.

Sally Morgan
What a show in Leicester last night! That message with the 6 year old boy was incredible, gives me goose bumps just thinking about it! xSx

http://www.thisisannouncements.co.uk...urce=clmi_innl

There are comments mentioning details "She couldnt have known" about a swimming pool etc. But they are anecdotes from believers who were at the show.

 

[Azrael 5]

To add.Ive been told a Facebook member as been threatened with legal action and had their account removed or banned or something, trying to find out more.

 

[John Jackson]

It's a shame that many sceptics out there are criticising and being negative about Simon suggesting the test. Saying that it's pointless or just a publicity stunt.

I think it is worthwhile asking questions about whether this sort of thing is actually of any use.

Is there any evidence out there that this type of confrontational, adversarial challenge really has an effect on people's* belief overall?

If this type of posturing challenge doesn't work - and the psychological research I've read regarding the psychology of persuasion etc. strongly suggests it doesn't - then what is the point?




* I'm assuming the target audience to be the people who believe in psychics and pay to see their performances.

 

[Reno]

The point, as far as I am concerned, is to berate publicly, as loudly as possible, using 'fighting talk' and argumentative language, any high-profile psychic (Sally Morgan, John Edward, Sylvia Browne, JVP, etc) incessantly for avoiding the MDC. Keep the media fed with the tidbits they like - fights, arguments, slanging-matches, accusations, personal revelations.

Because no high profile psychic will ever take the MDC, the only way we can reduce their livelihood, is to pursue the aforementioned course. Relentlessly.

 

[Blue Wode]

Sally Morgan challenged to prove her psychic powers on Halloween

A celebrity psychic who claims to speak with the dead in sellout shows across the country has been challenged by sceptics to prove her supernatural powers. They have invited TV "star psychic" Sally Morgan to demonstrate her ability to connect with the spirit world in a specially designed test in Liverpool on Monday.

The Halloween challenge is backed by the US paranormal investigator James Randi, and qualifies as the first step towards claiming a million-dollar prize established by the James Randi Educational Foundation for any psychic who can prove their "gift" to be real.

Read on...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2011/oct/27/sally-morgan-psychic-powers-halloween?newsfeed=true

 

[Reno]

no reply from her lawyers. eh? Shockerooni.

 

[George 152]

no reply from her lawyers. eh? Shockerooni.

Deafened no doubt by the sound of a departing 'psychic'

 

[Blue Wode]

The official Challenge Sally page - with quotes from supporters and a protocol - is here:
http://www.merseysideskeptics.org.uk

 

[Azrael 5]

Ironic the challenge has a quote from Derren Brown,he hasnt been forthcoming with a reply to allegations from Sally's camp about having tested her.

 

[thenigotoffthebus]

The official Challenge Sally page - with quotes from supporters and a protocol - is here:
http://www.merseysideskeptics.org.uk

Talk about a fair & simple test.

I have a prediction: She wont take this test (obviously) but at some point in the near future there will be a damage limitation exercise whereby she takes a very similar test but with her side calling the shots. Cue heavy TV editing & all the other usual shenanigans.

To make it appear more legitimate she may even enlist the help of a "proper scientist" like Gary Schwartz.