Occupy Wall Street better defend its identity

[Skeptic Ginger]

Here is the problem and there is a tipping point. It is possible this movement is going to start and sputter. But unless the unbalanced top heavy 1% do something different, the OWS movement will continue to resurface until it is heard.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

The following video explains very well why money is such a powerful and corrupting influence. I happen to believe that free speech and democracy will swing our way in the long run but I'd like to see more regulation and perhaps publicly funded elections. (a different video BTW).

For a minute I thought I was in the wrong thread.

 

[RandFan]

Here is the problem and there is a tipping point. It is possible this movement is going to start and sputter. But unless the unbalanced top heavy 1% do something different, the OWS movement will continue to resurface until it is heard.

No question. The middle class can't continue to shrink forever. We're not going to turn into a third world nation before there is some kind of revolution. I just hope the economy doesn't get worse.

 

[Brainster]

Some ultra-violence going on in the Greece versions of these protests.

 

[KoihimeNakamura]

Guilt by association fallacy.

 

[Neally]

More sexual deviancy:



Suggested chant for Occupy Seattle:

"Show me what your penis looks like!"
"This is what my penis looks like!"

But wait, there's more!

"A well-known “Occupy Wall Street” protester who was arrested last Friday for kneeling down in prayer and blocking traffic in lower Manhattan is wanted in Indiana for failing to appear in court in connection with criminal charges filed after cops found him naked, intoxicated, and covered in olive oil in a public park." http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/bizarre/occupy-wall-street-wanted-man-897430

 

[Ziggurat]

Police find missing 9 year old girl from Occupy Portland hanging out with "Rainbow"

Maybe that's what Cartman was talking about.

 

[timhau]

Some ultra-violence going on in the Greece versions of these protests.

Guilt by association fallacy.

Not really. The Greeks aren't protesting against Wall Street.

 

[bikerdruid]

Not really. The Greeks aren't protesting against Wall Street.

the greeks have been rioting in the streets for months.
the targets of their protest are still the banking and financial world.

 

[Checkmite]

the greeks have been rioting in the streets for months.
the targets of their protest are still the banking and financial world.

No, just the Greek government.

 

[KoihimeNakamura]

Well, I could simplify it as anything being posted is people going
"Hey, look at this guy. He represnets the entire protest movemetn!"
Pointedly ignoring that
a) they were a while back claiming that they didn't represent the Tea Party (please try to be consistent) and
b) that was a wrong claim then, it's not less wrong now. Any general protest movement draws people prone to violence. Using them to smear a movement is a guilt by association fallacy and just makes you look desperate. since
c) if you have arguments against them, they should be made against their points. Which do faintly exist.

ETA: Or going the mayor and business owners want them out - you don't say! Pot smokers, who think the ban is pointless in it too? Like it's a catch all for dissatisfied people? I'm shocked!

 

[WildCat]

the greeks have been rioting in the streets for months.
the targets of their protest are still the banking and financial world.

Actually, their mortal enemy is math. Greece simply doesn't have the GDP to support their current lifestyle.

 

[KoihimeNakamura]

Actually, their mortal enemy is math. Greece simply doesn't have the GDP to support their current lifestyle.

Sure, but that's not related to Occupy Wall Street, is it?

 

[bikerdruid]

No, just the Greek government.

.....the current manifestation of the greek government that is controlled by the banking world.
it is much the same protest.

 

[Checkmite]

.....the current manifestation of the greek government that is controlled by the banking world.
it is much the same protest.

No, more like the current manifestation of the Greek government that has no money, completely unlike the Wall Street situation, and is trying to keep its head above water by cutting services, some of which the protestors don't want them to cut.

I like how OWS sympathizers are beginning to declare that every protest by anyone around the world is essentially a protest against Wall Street, no matter what the people themselves are saying.

I suppose the folks being shot to death in Syria as we speak are protesting against Wall Street. That whole Ghadafi thing? Oh yeah, all about Wall Street.

ETA: And no, the Greek government doesn't have no money "because Wall Street took it all"; it has no money because it overspent it all.

 

[respect]

What do you understand the term "Control Fraud" to mean?

It is fraud from the top of an organization, most often referring to phony accounting practices.

The documentary isn't "a bunch of quotes" and how tiresomely predictable that you'd try to crowbar Jews into your non-explanation. Pathetic.

Please explain and justify your "ridiculous conspiracy theory video" insult.

There are plenty of threads here that already discuss the nonsense Federal Reserve conspiracy theories.

 

[Brainster]

New chant for Occupy Toronto:

All day, all week!
Sniffing on women's feet!

 

[timhau]

Sure, but that's not related to Occupy Wall Street, is it?

No, which is why it's highly disingenuous for OWS supporters to claim that the movement has put tens of thousands of Greeks on the streets.

 

[KoihimeNakamura]

Sure. And in the meantime, I think we should discuss it without resorting to guilt by association fallacies.

 

[JihadJane]

A sorry spectacle.

I think it's these protestors that love Wall Street. They don't want to occupy it and they for the most part support President Obama, who has so far received $16 million in Wall Street contributions.


As for crime:

Lured by cheap drugs and free food, creepy thugs have infiltrated the crowd of protesters camped out in Zuccotti Park for Occupy Wall Street, The Post has learned.

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/m...#ixzz1bDFA79Vk

With this post, you have completely avoided the question, in a rather childish way, as to what the benefits of Wall Street are to the world. In a similar way you avoid facing the reality of white collar crime.

I am disappointed that, like many other "critical thinkers" on this thread, you favor curtain-twitching gossip over rational discussion.

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