Teabaggers and Fluoride

[carlitos]

They tested two cities and found the one they gave fluoride to crashed in number of cavities. Politicians fell all over themselves to introduce it everywhere, so they could look like the heroes.

I would be stunned if it had a secondary side effect that was beneficial to Worldly Overlords.

I listened to a "How Stuff Works" podcast on fluoride (stuffyoushouldknow.com) and they made fluoridation sound like a bad idea and even hinted that it was mildly conspiratorial that it's in our water. I was surprised to hear it as the guys normally come across as pretty skeptical.

 

[casebro]

There just is no need to put it in the water. You want it, go get some. Sprinkle it on your oat meal for all I care. Just don't force feed it to me.

I've done some reading on it. Pretty innocuous really, except that it can cause tendon problems. Having needed surgeries to nine tendons, I decided to brush my teeth with backing soda.

 

[DavidJames]

I listened to a "How Stuff Works" podcast on fluoride (stuffyoushouldknow.com) and they made fluoridation sound like a bad idea and even hinted that it was mildly conspiratorial that it's in our water. I was surprised to hear it as the guys normally come across as pretty skeptical.

Exactly which Institute is "How Stuff Works" within NIH?

 

[varwoche]

They tested two cities and found the one they gave fluoride to crashed in number of cavities. Politicians fell all over themselves to introduce it everywhere, so they could look like the heroes.

Cite please?

 

[Vorticity]

"Who is John Galt, Mandrake?"

 

[carlitos]

Exactly which Institute is "How Stuff Works" within NIH?

 

[Puppycow]

Cite please?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_fluoridation#History

To test the hypothesis that adding fluoride would prevent cavities, Dean and his colleagues conducted a controlled experiment by fluoridating the water in Grand Rapids, Michigan, starting January 25, 1945. The results, published in 1950, showed significant reduction of cavities.[23][103] Significant reductions in tooth decay were also reported by important early studies outside the U.S., including the Brantford–Sarnia–Stratford study in Canada (1945–1962), the Tiel–Culemborg study in the Netherlands (1953–1969), the Hastings study in New Zealand (1954–1970), and the Department of Health study in the U.K. (1955–1960).[101] By present-day standards these and other pioneering studies were crude, but the large reductions in cavities convinced public health professionals of the benefits of fluoridation.[15]

 

[Nosi]

2. The only reason people aren't completely benevolent to eachother is because they expect government to do it instead. If government provided no assistance to the disabled, society would just take care of them. Health care providers would treat all their needs for free, landlords would let them stay on their property rent free, grocery stores would give them free food. For those without family support, strangers would open their doors to them and care for them if they were unable to care for themselves. All disabled people would be completely cared for by their community if not for the government.

funny you should mention that, I just posted this in another thread earlier today...



I was also told by the same people that though making us sick was not the goal of flouride (just a side effect). The goal was to make the population passive, which is what I was told by them flouride does. I was also told that Nazi Germany put flouride in the water for the same reason.

The nested quote is the biggest pile of bullflops I have ever heard! The pea brain you got this from doesn't know history from his lower orifice!

 

[jj]

This is a surprise exactly how?

The combined elements of the "New Reconstruction" and the Dominionists is truly toxic.

 

[Tricky]

There just is no need to put it in the water. You want it, go get some. Sprinkle it on your oat meal for all I care. Just don't force feed it to me.

I've done some reading on it. Pretty innocuous really, except that it can cause tendon problems. Having needed surgeries to nine tendons, I decided to brush my teeth with backing soda.

The dangers of fluoridation (apart from excessive natural fluoridation) are practically nil, while the benefits are great. Quackwatch has a number of studies supporting it and it is also supported by the Center for Disease Control. If you're really worried about it, you can take steps to keep it out of your diet, by drinking distilled water and other precautions, but don't ask that we put the health of millions of kids at risk by discontinuing one of the most successful programs in history.

 

[Jrrarglblarg]

MMmmmmmm that's good crazy! It neither freshens nor whitens.

I think the Tea Party should be open to all crazy and stupid ideas. They have been so far. This will make it much easier to identify the raving lunatics in society.

I lolz. Maybe I put this on a poster and march with the "occupy" kidz in my town?

 

[varwoche]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_fluoridation#History

This, and things I found, indicate that Beerina's summary isn't exactly based on fact.

at several widely scattered places in the world, it was noticed that relatively small groups of people had a significantly lower susceptibility to a particular disease. Such a phenomenon was very unusual, and many investigators tried to discover the cause. The reason for this was later found to be that the water consumed at these places contained a peculiar ingredient. The effectiveness of the ingredient depended on its concentration; too much produced an undesirable result, too little was ineffective. Immediately many people wondered whether adding the ingredient in the right amounts to their drinking water would result in a similar reduction in this illness. This was tried in several places, and it was in fact found to work just as well as if the ingredient had been there naturally. As a result, many places started adding this material to their water supplies. This, in brief, is the history of fluoridation as it relates to the control of dental decay.

 

[Schrodinger's Cat]

The nested quote is the biggest pile of bullflops I have ever heard! The pea brain you got this from doesn't know history from his lower orifice!

Yeah, I have to say it took me by surprise as well. The friend I went with believes all this stuff too. He's a generally smart guy, a very successful engineer and inventor. But he's also a big Alex Jones/ conspiracy theory buff.

 

[leftysergeant]

The only evidence that flouride in the drinking water is a public health hazard is that most of the teatards were kids when they started doing it.

 

[varwoche]

They tested two cities and found the one they gave fluoride to crashed in number of cavities. Politicians fell all over themselves to introduce it everywhere, so they could look like the heroes.

Restated, less the libertopian spin intended to cast government in the worst possible light:

After tests were conducted worldwide proving the efficacy of fluoride, elected officials wisely acted to add fluoride to US water supplies.

 

[Brown]

Apparently these people think Dr. Strangelove was a documentary.

What makes satire effective is that it is very close to the truth. As some folks from the Onion have said, the closer it is to the truth, the funnier it is.

And Dr. Strangelove is very close to the truth. The story upon which it is based is dead serious. As Stanley Kubrick read the story ("Red Alert" by Peter George), Kubrick couldn't help but find himself laughing at all of the absurdity. It was principally Terry Southern who added the comedic touches to the script, and the performances of George C. Scott, Peter Sellers, Sterling Hayden and Keenan Wynn honed the satire to perfection. According to some reports, Slim Pickens was directed by Kubrick to play his role straight, in other words, dead serious, with no funny stuff or clowning around.

And for those who haven't seen the flick, a high-ranking US general orders a wing of nuclear bombers under his command to attack the Soviet Union, in part as retaliation for fluoridation of water.

Mandrake, do you realize that in addition to fluoridating water, why, there are studies underway to fluoridate salt, flour, fruit juices, soup, sugar, milk ... ice cream. Ice cream, Mandrake; CHILDREN'S ice cream.... It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual; certainly without any choice. That's the way your hard-core Commie works!

 

[Gord_in_Toronto]

Amusingly enough (for varying degrees of amusing) tea contains a fair amount of fluoride. Enough that, if you overindulge, it can cause health problems.

 

[Nosi]

Does anyone get the uncontrollable urge to drop an unopened tiny tube of Crest Toothpaste into a glass of water before handing it to a tea bagger friend or truther then ask "Oh dear, did you tell me about the fluoride in the water"?