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We Now Know When Jesus Returns

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What you are discovering is nobody is able to find fault with the proof for the Tribulation Sept. 14, 2015 to Aug. 7, 2022. The reason for that is because it is true. Jesus steps down Aug. 7, 2022.
 
Resistible said:
Jesus is the most documented person in antiquity so if he didn't exist then nobody did, and if nobody did then you wouldn't exist.
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not by a long shot, sorry.
there are many classical writers that are widely documented...jesus is just not one of them.
no contemporary writer mentions him by name.


btw....just for the record, i like jesus. he was a groovy guy. he taught love.
too bad paul turned that simple message into a political structure that makes hitler look like a boy scout.
so much for love, eh?
 
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Resistible said:
Matthew wrote Matthew, Luke wrote Luke, Mark wrote Mark, John wrote John, Luke wrote Acts, Paul wrote his epistles, Peter wrote 1 & 2 Peter, Jude wrote Jude, James wrote James, John wrote Revelation and 1,2,3 John.

No evidence otherwise?
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Rather presumptuous of you to know better than those who have delved into the matter deeply, isn't it? But hey, what do they know? You've been fed the line from people you trust, likely, and those people obviously couldn't be susceptible to human failings like... being wrong. About claims that they likely haven't actually examined. Either that, or you likely cherry-picked the ones that agree with the view that you hold. Confirmation bias is a powerful thing, in the end, as is avoiding cognitive dissonance.

That said, I'm going to quote bikerdruid, because the page that he linked at least mentioned some of the issues involved with gospel dating and points out the bare facts. Furthermore, I'd be tempted to add more, but honestly, it's late for me, and I don't feel like doing the legwork, this time. Feel free to call me lazy.

bikerdruid said:
sorry, but wrong...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel#Dating
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Edit: Oh, yeah. Attributions. It's late. Tired. Try reading this to start.
 
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Resistible said:
Sure we are all humans but not all humans have made false claims about when Jesus would return.
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How can you make that claim?! So far, every human that has made the date has failed. There have been no true claims YET. I mean if you're gonna bet the farm on your horse by all means, but for the time being ALL humans have made false claims about when Jesus would return, so much so that in the freakin' Bible you yourself have been warned that you shouldn't, because you'll never know.

But you've been told this already.
 
Resistible said:
There's no contemporary writings about anyone in antiquity. But as far as sources go within 150 years of his death, he is has more sources than any ten individuals combined.
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How about Socrates, Hesiod, or some of the Pre-Socratic philosophers? We have more writings about them than Jesus, and could you provide at least one extra-biblical piece of writing that actually mentions Jesus within this 150 year time period?
 
Resistible said:
What you are discovering is nobody is able to find fault with the proof for the Tribulation Sept. 14, 2015 to Aug. 7, 2022. The reason for that is because it is true. Jesus steps down Aug. 7, 2022.
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No dude it's easy to find fault because prophecies cannot be true until AFTER they're complete. This one is what, 10 years out?
 
Lowpro said:
No dude it's easy to find fault because prophecies cannot be true until AFTER they're complete. This one is what, 10 years out?
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You can disprove a prophecy by showing it s not in accord with Scripture or that it uses silly reasoning.
 
Flea2143 said:
How about Socrates, Hesiod, or some of the Pre-Socratic philosophers? We have more writings about them than Jesus, and could you provide at least one extra-biblical piece of writing that actually mentions Jesus within this 150 year time period?
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Jesus has 45 ancient sources about him within 150 years of His death. Tiberius died 4 years after Jesus and only had 9. Like I said, Jesus has more sources about him than any ten figures in antiquity combined. That is a fact.
 
Resistible said:
Same is true of everyone in antiquity.
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And yet you say that Jesus is the most documented person in history. There are writings about Socrates from people who aren't Socrates, and who can be shown to have been his contemporaries, can you say the same for Jesus?
 
Flea2143 said:
And yet you say that Jesus is the most documented person in history. There are writings about Socrates from people who aren't Socrates, and who can be shown to have been his contemporaries, can you say the same for Jesus?
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The writers of the NT are Jesus' contemporaries.
 
Flea2143 said:
We don't have original copies of the gospel so you can't claim that they were contemporaries of Jesus, by your own logic.
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There are about 15 original papyrus still surviving from the 2nd century. Nobody else has this in antiquity.
 
Ya...no......you see, I don't hold the bible to be true, I have no reason to take your "prophecy" more seriously than any other "prophecy".
 
Resistible said:
You can disprove a prophecy by showing it s not in accord with Scripture or that it uses silly reasoning.
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That's one of the ways, but it's not definitive because Scripture...CAN BE WRONG (I know, weird concept for you) the only definitive way to determine whether a prophecy is WRONG is if it fails.

A badly contrived prophecy may be ridiculous, but only definitively wrong ONCE it isn't fulfilled. Example. Instead of the rapture being on the date you specify, the Rapture occurs 3 years from now.

Your prophecy would STILL be wrong.
 
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