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Australian Federal Election 2010

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Wow. Speculation, that's really good evidence that the government is about to fall, they should join the line with all the other people who will either cause Gillard to resign or rule with Mark Bishop (whoever he is).

Who said the government is about to fall? You are leaping to conclusions that I have not expressed nor even considered. Gillard might fall is the message here. Maybe you think Richo has no idea about what goes on behind the scenes in Labor? Personally I do.
 
Abbott showed his disconnection with reality when the election was over. He told the party meeting that they were "No longer the Opposition". For some reason, he has never been pulled up on that. He has been in Opposition for over a year now.

You are kidding aren't you? What possible relevance has this to anything going on today? And you speak about a disconnect? :boggled:
 
Yep I was wrong. I have been before and I predict I will be again from time to time. As I pointed out at the time, it was just a guess, a reckoning, an opinion.

That said, Gillard is far from safe, in fact she is just as precariously placed as ever. It's only a matter of time.

It seems to me that some of you are mixing up my opinion on the prospective demise of Gillard with the fall of the Labor government. They are two different things altogether.
 
Who said the government is about to fall? You are leaping to conclusions that I have not expressed nor even considered. Gillard might fall is the message here. Maybe you think Richo has no idea about what goes on behind the scenes in Labor? Personally I do.
The Indpendants have an agreement with Gillard as leader.
If she falls the agreement is off unless Rudd/Mark Bishop/Swan/Bourke/Shorten/Beattie etc etc whoever is in the media as possible Labor leader can come to an agreement with the Independants.
If she falls probably the government will fall.
The worst thing to happen is to have Tony Abbott as our PM. ABA (anyone but Abbott).
 
The Indpendants have an agreement with Gillard as leader.
If she falls the agreement is off unless Rudd/Mark Bishop/Swan/Bourke/Shorten/Beattie etc etc whoever is in the media as possible Labor leader can come to an agreement with the Independants.

Agree.

If she falls probably the government will fall.

Disagree. Do you honestly see (say) Oakshot bringing down the government and going to an election where he will lose his job? It won't happen. Wilkie too seems to have been wavering in his resolve around the pokies deadlines he previously demanded.

Deals will be quickly done to ensure that the status quo is retained as best can be. Rudd might even be able to pick up Katter as a replacement for Wilkie should he remove support for Labor.

But there are a lot of permutaions, what ifs and canvassing that is/will be required. But rest assured, it is going on right now.

Gillard (as a person) will be viewed by history as an unfortunate experiment. Sadly too she has done more damage for women in politics as anyone. Have you seen her female support numbers lately? As bad (or good?) as Abbot's - someone who is supposed to have a 'woman problem'.

Why ABA, exactly?
 
Who said the government is about to fall? You are leaping to conclusions that I have not expressed nor even considered.

Riiight. And you haven't been linking to whatever drivel The Australian has to say either.

Gillard might fall is the message here. Maybe you think Richo has no idea about what goes on behind the scenes in Labor? Personally I do.

Because apparently "former" now means "current".
 
You are kidding aren't you? What possible relevance has this to anything going on today? And you speak about a disconnect? :boggled:

This

I think Gillard is totally done now - I reckon she will be gone in a month to six weeks.

For example. There has been a constant barrage of BS from the press. From the day Abbott lost, it has been unrelenting. "No longer the opposition". We are living in lala land at the moment.
 
If anyone finds the video I would love a copy.

Enjoy.

A JOHN CLARKE, BRYAN DAWES SKIT

-THE CUSTOMER-

[Scene: A car yard. BRYAN is perusing the stock. He is approached by JOHN]

John: “Morning! Looking for a new car?”

Bryan: “Nope. Prime Minister, actually.”

John: “You’re the third one this morning. Anything in mind?”

Bryan: “You know ....... nothing fancy, reliable, economical family model. Something to get the country from A to B.”

John: “You mean like a Howard?”

Bryan: “Yeah .... a little Johnny. Nothing flash, does the job. Low maintenance, economical, sensible. Runs for years, no troubles.

John: “So.... you used to have one?

Bryan: “Yeah. About 10 years. Great little model – don’t know why I got rid of him -- biggest mistake I’ve ever made.”

John: “What happened?”

Bryan: “Traded him in for a Kevin 07.”

John: “Big mistake.”

Bryan: “Lot of people bought it. Good political mileage.”

John: “How was the Kevin 07?”

Bryan: “Came with a $900 factory rebate – that was good.”

John: “Anything else?”

Bryan: “Not much. Sounded nice but nothing under the bonnet. It was a lemon.”

John: “Didn’t stick around for long did it?

Bryan: “Nah – had a factory recall. Shipped overseas and was never seen again.”

John: “What was the problem?”

Bryan: “Lots. But the final straw was the navigation system. Plug it in and it automatically loses its own way.”

John: “Whatcha got now?”

Bryan: “It’s a Gillard-Brown.”

John: “The hybrid?”

Bryan: “Yeah. The Eco-drive system – not a good idea. An engine that can’t deliver hooked up to a transmission stuck in permanent reverse.”

John: “Green paintwork with a red interior. And steering that always lurches to the left for no apparent reason – that’s the one?”

Bryan: “The Fustercluck model.”

John: “The only one they made, Bryan. Not the vehicle of choice for the road to recovery – but did they finish up fixing the navigation system?”

Bryan: “Made it worse. Turn it on and it does a press release, heads off in all directions and goes nowhere.”

John: “So that’s why you’re here?”

Bryan: “That’s right. I’m stuck with a government that's wasteful, expensive, ineffective and past its use by date. I don’t suppose you’ve heard of the ‘Cash for Clunkers’ scheme?”

John: “Join the queue brother.”
 
Bring back John Howard.

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http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...k-on-tony-abbott/story-fn59niix-1226161665486

After weeks of conducting a barnstorming media campaign, the naming of two Labor backbenchers pushing his leadership bid, the sounding out of union leaders for support and growing concern in the Labor caucus, Mr Rudd yesterday pushed leadership speculation to new heights.

Asked whether he was trying to actively undermine Ms Gillard to get back the top job, Mr Rudd did not deny the destabilisation. "What I am actively seeking to do is to do everything possible to prevent Mr Abbott becoming prime minister of Australia," he said
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An interesting take. When I first read it I wondered that they weren't drawing too long a bow.

On the other hand......

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-10-07/rudd-attacks-richardson-over-leadership-talk/3343638

He said Mr Richardson's observations about him in the newspaper column are "water off a duck's back".

Fair enough, thinks I.... but if that's the case, why this personal attack?

Foreign Minister Kevin Rudd has launched a bitter attack on former Labor powerbroker Graham Richardson, saying he is suffering from "relevance deprivation syndrome".

But some more fuel for the Australian claim here - buried deep in the article of course - when asked a direct question about leadership again there is another obvious dodge.

Asked if the visit was part of a leadership campaign, Mr Rudd said Ms Elliot had been inviting him to the electorate for a long time - and it was not far to travel from Brisbane.

Tick, tick, tick?
 
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Gillard has done a masterful job managing a minority government. If Abbott had won the support of the independents, (which he didn't, because he is Abbott, and if they didn't like him then, they loathe him now), the Liberal minority government would have fallen in a heap long ago.

There is plenty of time to think of the strategy for the next election. For now, the Labor government has passed a lot of important legislation, and has more on the way, such as raising the tax free threshold. This should have been done years ago, and makes much more sense than such middle class welfare as the 'baby bonus'.
 
Gillard has done a masterful job managing a minority government.

:dl:

As evidenced in the opinion polls. :boggled:

There is plenty of time to think of the strategy for the next election.

Not if Wilkie (or something else) withdraws support.

For now, the Labor government has passed a lot of important legislation,

Name five "important" pieces. Important in terms of core-type promises that Gillard gave at the last election.

and has more on the way, such as raising the tax free threshold.

LOL again.

Do you know when this will be implemented? Do you recall hearing when they would do this and under what circumstances?

And it was the only thing that actually came out of the tax forum (that cost $1m btw), that was a mindless duplication of previous efforts (eg. Henry review), that was not allowed to discuss certain tax issues.
And this initiative will happen when?

This is another example of waste and stupid, and you think it wonderful.

Truly amazing.

Rudd is rubbing his hands together everytime she opens her mouth. She is almost gun shy now.
 
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:dl:

As evidenced in the opinion polls. :boggled:

Australians voted for a hung parliament with a minority government. They don't appear to understand what that means. The Liberals could have easily been the government instead, except that between Abbott and Joyce, they had ensured the independents that would have more naturally gone with conservative Party actually opted for Labor instead. Once again, people forget that. Since then, Abbott has done his best to make sure they hate him, not just dislike him. So don't forget, Abbott has already made a major screw up by losing those negotiations, which were his to win.

All Abbott had to do was be reasonable, and show them respect. Those abilities don't exist in him.

Not if Wilkie (or something else) withdraws support.

The important legislation will be passed first. He could be bluffing, and he would never do a deal with the Liberals. They support Poker Machines, and are opposing his legislation.

Name five "important" pieces. Important in terms of core-type promises that Gillard gave at the last election.

The old Bolt mantra. Pick any number out of your ***** and demand that response. It's a boring trick by now. Move on, Alfie, the days of Bolt are over now. Look at his recent column. The sensitive, emotional Bolt is being put on display. He cares about bullying, and people's feelings. He has felt alone and isolated himself once. It makes me so sad. :(

151 Bills have been passed, 0 Bills have been blocked.

Here are some

The NBN bills.
Carbon Farming bill.
Plain Packaging for cigarettes.
National MyHospital website, to allow people to see for themselves how their hospitals are performing.
The National Disability Insurance Scheme has been announced with full bi-partisan support. It has not been passed yet, but it will be.
LOL again.

Do you know when this will be implemented? Do you recall hearing when they would do this and under what circumstances?

It's part of the carbon tax package, so it is going to be happening very soon. The conference just announced raising it further.

And it was the only thing that actually came out of the tax forum (that cost $1m btw), that was a mindless duplication of previous efforts (eg. Henry review), that was not allowed to discuss certain tax issues.
And this initiative will happen when?

This is another example of waste and stupid, and you think it wonderful.

Truly amazing.

Rudd is rubbing his hands together everytime she opens her mouth. She is almost gun shy now.

You rant like Abbott. It's got boring long ago.
 
The Liberals could have easily been the government instead, except that between Abbott and Joyce, they had ensured the independents that would have more naturally gone with conservative Party actually opted for Labor instead. Once again, people forget that. Since then, Abbott has done his best to make sure they hate him, not just dislike him. So don't forget, Abbott has already made a major screw up by losing those negotiations, which were his to win.

All Abbott had to do was be reasonable, and show them respect. Those abilities don't exist in him.








You rant like Abbott. It's got boring long ago.
ABA
 
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