Ed Rob Menard's FOTL Claims

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he wants to find a magic way out of paying for the house he bought as well?
Theres a loony over on Ickes who started a thread on the 5th March 2010 on how to settle a mortgage. (You just send the letters apparently??)
I wouldnt read it all but as yet she has no evidence that it works and not one person he knows has done it, yet the thread goes on.
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=106683

I do love the disclaimer in the very first post
The following 5 letters have been successfully used by a great many people over the past few years to effectively deal with creditor difficulties. We make no representations to the effectiveness of this strategy and we strongly advise interested parties to seek independent professional or competent advise when
utilizing such strategies.

Is that a possible stundie?
 
They're not just nuts, they're thieves!!

To be fair to the FOTL-Wafflers the thieving issue has never worked during the thirty-plus years that this myth/fantasy/con has been going.

Scribbling some gibberish on your bills does not make them go away.

Uttering some gibberish in Court does not get you off charges.

...I offer that tidbit of information free of charge, please keep your $800
 
Wow, I just did a Google search to figure out what the "96 fix trick" was. Unbelievable, these nuts think some "magic code" on their power bill will exempt them from paying for the power they used?
This is another example where Menard teaches others how to perform the process, but has never done it for himself.
He said on Ickes a while back that all of his own utilities are paid for within the rent he pays to his landlord. It's in his contract:D
 
He said on Ickes a while back that all of his own utilities are paid for within the rent he pays to his landlord.

Of course that makes total sense, pay a landlord around $400 a month "all in" and live in a mediocre apartment as opposed to pay $400 for a nice apartment and offset the cost of all the utilites.

Seems like a no brainer to me :boggled:
 
I wonder why Menard does not use the FMOTL waffle on his landlord and live for free. :D
 
Because if I recall correctly he said it was that it was a contract he had entered into of his own free will and he was a man of honour.

Which roughly translates as "He will kick me out if I dont pay him"
 
I wonder why Menard does not use the FMOTL waffle on his landlord and live for free. :D

The thing that I have tried to find out (without success) is what sort of advice the freeman community would give to the landlord in this situation. What would freeman logic tell a person to do if their tenant was not paying rent? What if a freeman landlord was trying to collect rent but then when you demand rent they respond back with a fee schedule, and a bill of exchange, or they write "accepted for value" on your bill, etc. Same goes for any type of loan.

They really don't like to think about this situation from my experience and usual advice I have seen given is along the lines of "don't be a landlord if you don't know how deal with tenants" or "this is why the bible tells us not to loan money." The problem for the freeman is that they can't simply say "just go file a claim with the courts and get what you're owed" because then they are admitting that freeman methods are useless. I think it's easier for them to imagine freeman philosophy along the lines of "we're just trying to stick it to the man" rather than thinking through how their desired system would work from other perspectives.
 
It is an entertaining angle of question, I am sure it would lead to much yelling and obfuscation. :D
 
I would thoroughly recommend keeping an eye on the FOTL-Waffle section over on Icke's CessPit;

There is some wonderful dialogue being initiated by Sol, Rumpel and Mickle at the moment in numerous threads.

Whilst embarassingly cringe-worthy to have to read the usual nonsensical replies from the deluded pot-smoking unemployable muppets, I do enjoy the facts that I a/ am I.P. banned from Icke-Land and b/ have not got the patience required to deal with them :blush:

It would seem that now GuruRob has run away DIF-Mongers are battling to take his position as "Big-Chief-Bollocky-Talk"..... Someone mentioned NESARA :) ... Oh dear.:jaw-dropp
 
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It seems there are just a couple of mental patients holding the fort of freemanism over on Ickes (herald homes and jackieg)
Herald holmes alias pigpot from World Freeman Society has recruited reverendjim another WFS member to assist.
Hes just as stupid as the first two.
What a sight it is watching them destroy the last remnants of FMOTL themselves.
They dont need people debunking them, its easier to let them just post on their own,.
 
If anything has been demonstrated over on the Icke forum lately, it is that there are very few, if any, posters left there who actually believe in Menardian fmotl woo any longer. Unfortunately some seem to have simply migrated to other scams and nonsense, but I'm still going to count it as progress.
 
Thats right Solz, Menard realised this and has virtually disappeared from the web.
He still reads this page though on a regular basis as he responded to bob haulks post within 9 minutes on the 27th Sept.
Coincidence? I think not.
Some of the guys on Ickes drifted to ucadia but I think they have come to realise the stupidity of that, Yozhiks not daft enough to promote ucadia on Ickes but is still active on ucadia forums.

The current thread on Ickes about the status quo is ironic, without the status quo, freeman on the land (as it is now) would cease to exist as it relies on the status quo to fund its freeloading existance.

Yes, I think we have seen the last of Menards ilk for the time being as hes running scared now as his last video showed, he knows the cops know him now and are just looking for an excuse to bust him.
 
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Thats right Solz, Menard realised this and has virtually disappeared from the web.
He still reads this page though on a regular basis as he responded to bob haulks post within 9 minutes on the 27th Sept.
Coincidence? I think not.
Some of the guys on Ickes drifted to ucadia but I think they have come to realise the stupidity of that, Yozhiks not daft enough to promote ucadia on Ickes but is still active on ucadia forums.

The current thread on Ickes about the status quo is ironic, without the status quo, freeman on the land (as it is now) would cease to exist as it relies on the status quo to fund its freeloading existance.

Yes, I think we have seen the last of Menards ilk for the time being as hes running scared now as his last video showed, he knows the cops know him now and are just looking for an excuse to bust him.

There is no limit to your BS and self-delusions is there? Cops know who I am, where I am, and what I intend to do. Unfortunately there is nothing they can lawfully do about it. But you keep making your "WE WON!" claims, this is what the hundredth time you have done so and been proven wrong, right? We are having a nice big gathering on Friday and the movement is growing here. Your problem is you think that because people give up trying to talk sense to the people here, on this forum, they have given up entirely.

On Friday I have a meeting with 50 people form a small town in NS, all of whom are ready to serve their notices and make their claims. But of course since it is not happening here on this forum, it ain't happening at all right?

Sheesh... you are so deluded in your constant claims of victory, always proven to be false.

Remember when you said I was too scared to ever post here again? Wrong weren't you?

Well, I have to prepare for my continuing and expanding actions now, have a great day.
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FreemanMenard - Any interest in responding to some of the outstanding posts directed your way? Of course I'm thinking mainly of my own responses to you...

By the way, what town were you talking about in NS?
 
less than an hour after I post heres Rob with another "drive by" smattering of waffle and lies.

Rob, you are scared to post on this thread, its clear for all to see
On Friday I have a meeting with 50 people form a small town in NS, all of whom are ready to serve their notices and make their claims.
Serve notices and make claims????
So what, you have been making claims for years and nothings come of it.
PS how much is it on the door?
 
On Friday I have a meeting with 50 people form a small town in NS, all of whom are ready to serve their notices and make their claims. But of course since it is not happening here on this forum, it ain't happening at all right?
So what?
You appear to be suggesting that these "notices" have an effect. History tells us otherwise. People that have served notices and subsequently contravene statute law still end up in court. Jail sometimes.
It always seems to me that you are desperate to make the point that you are gaining more and more support. Perhaps you are. But don't fall into the trap of believing any increase in support you receive will in some way trouble those of us who consider you to be full of BS. Just because you may convince other people your BS is real doesn't stop it being BS.
 
Rob - so when these 50 people from NS fail miserably in the courts (and they will) are you prepared to admit that this is all moonshine and wishful thinking?

All the legal precedent here in the Great White North is against your concepts. And the bulk of the residents of this country would likely go "Nice try sunshine, but our country, our rules."
 
FreemanMenard - Any interest in responding to some of the outstanding posts directed your way? Of course I'm thinking mainly of my own responses to you...
Menard, when stopped in his tracks by an "awkward" post, has the habit of saying something like: "Your post raises some interesting points and questions. I would like to give those points some time to consider and I will get back to you when I have taken sufficient time to think about them and to craft a reply that addresses everything that you have raised."
Your post then gets suitably buried before he comes back a week later and he never responds.
He did it on Icke's many times.
 
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Menard, when stopped in his tracks by an "awkward" post, has the habit of saying something like: "Your post raises some interesting points and questions. I would like to give those points some time to consider and I will get back to you when I have taken sufficient time to think about them and to craft a reply that addresses everything that you have raised."

Perhaps, but I would still like to encourage a response if he is still willing. I believe he did say he was going to take time to consider the points I raised but I haven't heard anything further. He may still be composing his response.
 
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