Continuation Part 3 - Discussion of the Amanda Knox case

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A Perugia (e in America) infatti sono tutti convinti che Amanda e Raffaele saranno assolti dai giudici dell’Appello, per l’omicidio di Meredith Kercher. Lo teme (forse scaramanticamente) anche l’accusa che in Aula, tirando le somme del processo, ha denunciato, a mo’ di una postuma ricusazione della corte, il giudice relatore Zanetti che aprendo il processo ha pronunciato un’assoluzione preventiva: «L’unica cosa certa di questo processo è che c’è un morto, Meredith Kercher». Come dire: le prove ritenute tali dai giudici di primo grado non valgono nulla.

In Perugia (and in America) in fact everybody is convinced Amanda and Raffaele will be released by the Appellate judges, for the murder of Meredith Kercher. He fears it (maybe to bring luck) even the prosecutor of the court, summarising the trial, he stated, as a way of demonstrating the judges were biased, the judge Zanetti when opening the trial announced an expected not guilty verdict: "The only thing that is certain of this trail is that there is a death, Meredith Kercher". As if to say: the proof taken as such by the first judges for first degree murder, aren't worth anything.

Il gestore del negozio Conad sotto casa di Raffaele, Quintavalle, aveva già fatto un passo indietro: «Non ho visto Amanda alle 7,45».

The manager of the shop Conad next to Raffaele's house, Quintavalle, has already taken a step backwards: "I didn't see Amanda at 7:45".

Note that in the above I don't know how to properly translate "a mo’ di una postuma ricusazione della corte". Ricusazione is when a judge is replaced because that judge cannot be impartial for some reason. I think what the Prosecution is saying here is that those words spoken by Zanetti at the start of the trial are cause for seeking a mistrial based on Zanetti being biased towards the defence. This is just a guess, though.
 
Peggy Ganong is showing us once again how her group works to preserve the memory of Meredith Kercher on her website Perugia Murder File. They are currently talking about Rocco Girlanda and what he might give Amanda as a parting gift when she leaves Italy.

Peggy: "Howzabout a truffle-scented vibrator that buzzes to the tune of All You Need Is Love?"

Now that is class! Would Meredith appreciate Perugia Murder File? I highly doubt it.
 
If the prosecution refused to accept that and instead tried to make a case far past their own evidence again, that's their own damn fault, the trial de novo is automatic, and generally includes a new prosecution team, this one didn't, but it's not the fault of the defense that the prosecutor from the last trial crept into this one, and more the proper function of the oversight element of the Italian system that the new judicial team wasn't impressed with the Massei Report.

How did that happen, by the way? Was it just that Mignini overrode everyone and insisted upon being the only one able to continue the crusade against Satan-worshiping Freemason sex/sacrifice cults? Or maybe was it that none of the other prosecutors wanted to have their names involved in this case, nor get hit with the ignominy should it get overturned?
 
Note that in the above I don't know how to properly translate "a mo’ di una postuma ricusazione della corte". Ricusazione is when a judge is replaced because that judge cannot be impartial for some reason. I think what the Prosecution is saying here is that those words spoken by Zanetti at the start of the trial are cause for seeking a mistrial based on Zanetti being biased towards the defence. This is just a guess, though.

I think you're right. "una postuma ricusazione della corte" strikes me as meaning "a retroactive ('posthumous') recusal from the trial." In other words, Zanetti should have recused himelf from the proceedings at the start, and they're going to seek to get the Supreme Court to, in effect, carry it out by invalidating the appeals trial result (obviously, only if it doesn't go their way)..
 
Which meant they read the report and thought it a stinking pile of crap like every rational actor in this debate, which includes a few you might not even suspect from the guilt side, notably, SomeAlibi, Tom and Michael who I saw discussing it in an abandoned thread when I first looked into it last summer, not even really knowing what any of it meant.

As that sentence would be described as revealing by 'Italian Courtwatchers' it's probably not unique to this case, thus a practice perhaps not unlike watching for pillars of smoke. That probably might have indicated that the prosecution might have been better off making a case that could be sustained by evidence and the Judges were signaling they weren't about to write 400 pages of 'it's possible, indeed probable' and accept absurdities as 'science' and sophistry as logic.

Pillars of smoke? LOL

Would have been perfect to announce the verdict via papal smoke signals. Why not for a former "Woman of the Year?"

You found PGers criticizing the Massei Report? That's a relief, actually. Good to know smidgens of objectivity lie within.
 
The Quintavalle recanting claim may be only an interpretation of the defence source of the article, as it is argued in the appeal doc.

I only have access to the translated to English summaries, which I just checked and don't include any arguments of that sort. Could you umm...summarize them for us?

Incidentally, don't you suppose that a well-heeled PR Supertanker would make pains to include (more) Italian-speakers in its hiring practices? Didn't you ever wonder about us fumbling around with Italian law, using translated texts and Machiavelli as an authority when we damn well ought to have had access to those real Italian lawyers? :p

I asked Machiavelli once how he could square the omnipotent Gogherty-Marriott PR Supertanker complete with 'paid' online posters, and the 'inconsistency' of all of us having to rely on Google Translate for articles and papers in Italian, and PMF for a complete version of the Massei Report. I never did get an answer....

:p
 
How did that happen, by the way? Was it just that Mignini overrode everyone and insisted upon being the only one able to continue the crusade against Satan-worshiping Freemason sex/sacrifice cults? Or maybe was it that none of the other prosecutors wanted to have their names involved in this case, nor get hit with the ignominy should it get overturned?

He claimed to have been asked aboard by Costagliola because of the 'complications' of the case. Entering the discussion a year ago, that was cause for a great deal of alarm regarding his having 'muscled' himself into this case, but my guess was more along the lines of your latter theory....
 
Terrible video quality on the feed. And, unless you know Italian, relatively pointless.

It's because they can't use their own cameras in the courtroom.
There is only one camera and its picture is displayed on a large screen in the hall.
That's where all the feeds come from, again by cameras.
 
CNN (on TV) is playing it with a live translator

and wow, the translator is almost as indecipherable. They couldn't get someone better?
 
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