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I love how now that AE911 abandonded their "engineers" portion they get 15K signatures. That's alot more kookery than they had before.
 
NoahFence said:
S. Shyman Sunder Sc. D
Richard Gann, PhD
William Grosshandler, Phd
HS Lew, PhD, PE
Richard Bukowski, PE
Fahim Sadek, PhD
John Gross, PhD, PE
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So the people who contributed to the NIST reports support the NIST reports. Good job.

How many are structural engineers? And who is
et..etc..etc.....
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?
 
Animal said:
Or move on to another "topic":rolleyes:
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You can always tell when he's getting desperate because his posts become shorter and shorter and he starts talking to no one about points debunkers never actually made.

Actually, that applies to just about any CT.

Either way, I like the double standard of how 1600 a's and e's, whether they're qualified or not, are just fine, but even questioning them causes Ergo to ask Scott Sommers for his creds back in post #21. And I still want to know how many of the 15,000 are credible, but Ergo hasn't answered. Ergo, please answer. Heck, by your own standards, how many of those 15,000 signatories are structural engineers?

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ergo said:
So the people who contributed to the NIST reports support the NIST reports. Good job.
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Of course. I see you're expecting a respectable engineer to come out and have a press conference saying:

" I support the NIST report of the Offical Story over the Controlled Demolition narrative of the 9/11 Truth Movement"

Trouble is, that's not going to happen. You people are irrelevant to the real world.


How many are structural engineers? And who is etc ?
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None. No structural engineer was responsible for investigating or reporting for NIST. They were all 7th grade students. Real smart ones. :boggled:

Enough of them were engineers to answer your question.

Etc..etc..etc... = the people I didn't feel like typing, but you can find in about 7 seconds if you'd stop typing your retarded drivel here, and did a token search.
 
Architect said:
They have;the Eurocodes now include for measures to limit the scope for what they term disproportionate structural collapse. I have mentioned this here many times.
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Here is one of the few publications on "disproportionate structural collapse" I could readily find:

http://www.tara.tcd.ie/bitstream/2262/49396/1/Disproportionate Collapse in Building Structures.pdf

Note that they don't even discuss the WTC disaster, even though it was obviously written after it. I also note that they consider the bomb damage at the Murrah building to be "disproportionate collapse" :eye-poppi ... and their apparent definition of "progressive collapse" is what occurs from loss of lower building structure. This is not the kind of progressive collapse that NIST talks about.

So it seems that even engineers aren't clear on what NIST meant by "progressive collapse." In what way can any of this be taken seriously?
 
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NoahFence said:
Of course. I see you're expecting a respectable engineer to come out and have a press conference saying:

" I support the NIST report of the Offical Story over the Controlled Demolition narrative of the 9/11 Truth Movement"

Trouble is, that's not going to happen. You people are irrelevant to the real world.
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What's interesting is you don't see any of those 1600 wunderkinds having any press conferences saying " I support the Controlled Demolition narrative of the 9/11 Truth Movement over the NIST report of the Offical Story and here's why...".

Instead they sign an internet petition and then shut up completely.
 
ergo said:
So it seems that even engineers aren't clear on what NIST meant by "progressive collapse." In what way can any of this be taken seriously?
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Baseless incredulity, and the usual avoidance of concrete statements.
 
ergo said:
So it seems that even engineers aren't clear on what NIST meant by "progressive collapse." In what way can any of this be taken seriously?
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It's not required that YOU take it seriously, ergo. You're irrelevant.
 
NoahFence said:
Of course. I see you're expecting a respectable engineer to come out and have a press conference saying:

" I support the NIST report of the Offical Story over the Controlled Demolition narrative of the 9/11 Truth Movement"

Trouble is, that's not going to happen. You people are irrelevant to the real world.


None. No structural engineer was responsible for investigating or reporting for NIST. They were all 7th grade students. Real smart ones. :boggled:

Enough of them were engineers to answer your question.

Etc..etc..etc... = the people I didn't feel like typing, but you can find in about 7 seconds if you'd stop typing your retarded drivel here, and did a token search.
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LOL, jref member talking about engineers

Its like a garbageman telling that a heart surgeon lives in a irrelevant world, because he thinks the heart surgeon doesnt understand his expertise LOL

debunkers and logic...
 
ergo said:
Here is one of the few publications on "disproportionate structural collapse" I could readily find:

http://www.tara.tcd.ie/bitstream/2262/49396/1/Disproportionate Collapse in Building Structures.pdf

Note that they don't even discuss the WTC disaster, even though it was obviously written after it. I also note that they consider the bomb damage at the Murrah building to be "disproportionate collapse" :eye-poppi ... and their apparent definition of "progressive collapse" is what occurs from loss of lower building structure. This is not the kind of progressive collapse that NIST talks about.

So it seems that even engineers aren't clear on what NIST meant by "progressive collapse." In what way can any of this be taken seriously?
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Dude.

The Murrah Building collapse was pretty much completely different from the WTC collapse. The only thing similar was that they both were located in the United States.

Why would they discuss the WTC disaster? A building down the street from me collapsed due to snow - and they didn't cite the WTC disaster either.

When is it you intend to start making any sense? Sometime soon?
 
Marokkaan said:
LOL, jref member talking about engineers

Its like a garbageman telling that a heart surgeon lives in a irrelevant world, because he thinks the heart surgeon doesnt understand his expertise LOL

debunkers and logic...
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Um, you're the 'Garbageman'. I've seen you shrug off testimony from actual 'heart surgeons' lots of times.

Not that it's anything more than an ad hom, really. You aren't actually addressing the facts, but the people. Learning from Ergo?
 
Marokkaan said:
LOL, jref member talking about engineers

Its like a garbageman telling that a heart surgeon lives in a irrelevant world, because he thinks the heart surgeon doesnt understand his expertise LOL

debunkers and logic...
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What the **** does this even mean?
 
NoahFence said:
Dude.

The Murrah Building collapse was pretty much completely different from the WTC collapse. The only thing similar was that they both were located in the United States.

Why would they discuss the WTC disaster? A building down the street from me collapsed due to snow - and they didn't cite the WTC disaster either.
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Noah, don't make me put you back on Ignore.

Architect said that, in Europe, building code changes have resulted from the WTC disaster, and that they are meant to prevent something called "disproportionate structural collapse." Let's let Architect answer my question.
 
Structural engineer,n....(jref).....def.[Structural engineers analyze, design, plan, and research structural components and structural systems to achieve design goals and ensure the safety and comfort of users or occupants. Their work takes account mainly of safety, technical, economic and environmental concerns, but they may also consider aesthetic and social factors and they believe in the official conspiracy theory]
 
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