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Continuation Part 3 - Discussion of the Amanda Knox case

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Prosecutor Slams Amanda Knox In Rebuttal
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http://www.kirotv.com/news/29348726/detail.html

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Wildhorses said:
Yep, that was bold. And truthful.

I only hope it won't spark retribution.
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It could also backfire. The judges and jury might be willing to accept police incompetence and even overzealousness in this case, but making a need to accept outright corruption and fabricating of evidence a condition of acquittal might be "a bridge too far" for them.

Personally, I wonder if the prosecution was almost hoping that one of the defense attorneys would make such an accusation, and thus generate a backlash.
 
pilot padron said:
Speaking not only for myself, but commenters everywhere.
Probably all of us would be interested in improving our own writing styles.
This so as to avoid uncivil impolite sniping, borderline off topic rants, redundant lengthy pontifications, making predictions "with absolute certainty" of future totally unpredictable events, and so on.

Today, as in past, I cannot help noticing that yet again Blogger SfarzoTM writings about the case are repeatedly exalted and heralded here (again).
Specifically, his last post being "his best ever" or slightly more reasonably "one of his best".

Therefore, Sfarzo might consider marketing himself as an educator for writer wannabes worldwide when his 15 minutes of fame from this case expires.

This of course assumes:

1) Mr Sfarzo does errr...'bite off more than he can chew'.. when confronting cops (again)
2) Mr Sfarzo does not again run afoul of the law with his writings and have to shut down (again).
3) Mr Fisher/FischerTM remains available to again be sole rescuer of Sfarzo's writings if he is shut down, again.
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pilot®©™ .......I don't always agree with Frank, but I love his writing style.
 
Rolfe said:
Not a big deal in either case, really, but why aren't we hearing about how Meredith was into sex, drugs and alcohol?
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Because that would violate the narrative of "Meredith the Good Girl" which is the necessary foil to "Amanda the Bad Girl."

And the defense can't bring such matters up because a) it's not germane to the facts of the case, and b) it would be portrayed as "smearing the victim."
 
DarkStar2011 said:
It could also backfire. The judges and jury might be willing to accept police incompetence and even overzealousness in this case, but making a need to accept outright corruption and fabricating of evidence a condition of acquittal might be "a bridge too far" for them.

Personally, I wonder if the prosecution was almost hoping that one of the defense attorneys would make such an accusation, and thus generate a backlash.
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Yes. Bad move, and it could indeed spark a counter reaction. It should have been subtly, subtly, implied, and not said outright.:mad:
 
pilot padron said:
Speaking not only for myself, but commenters everywhere.
Probably all of us would be interested in improving our own writing styles.
This so as to avoid uncivil impolite sniping, borderline off topic rants, redundant lengthy pontifications, making predictions "with absolute certainty" of future totally unpredictable events, and so on.

Today, as in past, I cannot help noticing that yet again Blogger SfarzoTM writings about the case are repeatedly exalted and heralded here (again).
Specifically, his last post being "his best ever" or slightly more reasonably "one of his best".

Therefore, Sfarzo might consider marketing himself as an educator for writer wannabes worldwide when his 15 minutes of fame from this case expires.

This of course assumes:

1) Mr Sfarzo does errr...'bite off more than he can chew'.. when confronting cops (again)
2) Mr Sfarzo does not again run afoul of the law with his writings and have to shut down (again).
3) Mr Fisher/FischerTM remains available to again be sole rescuer of Sfarzo's writings if he is shut down, (again).
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Yes, assuming his courage in confronting corruption on his own doorstep doesn't lead to more malicious prosecutions, maybe Frank should offer some workshops in blogging and journalism. He could defintely teach people like Vogt, Nadeau and Pisa a thing or two about objectivity and journalistic ethics and investigative journalism.
Bravo, Pilot, for recognising the good work that Frank has been doing for everyone interested in the truth of this case. :D
Frank may not write perfect english, sometimes not provide enough detail (for our purposes) and have a tendency toward drama, but his writing is passionate, evocative, his style quirky and interesting, and his fairness (in changing his stance when new evidence comes to light) and bravery shine through.
 
I think both defences use the reserve lawyers to consume the time today and the 4 "big guns" will come tomorrow.
 
HumanityBlues said:
Again, what does this have to do with evidence presented at trial, and why are they even allowed to mention any of this?
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Sad to say, even if the result of this trial is an acquittal, I think the "justice" system of Italy has been revealed as hopelessly unfair and corrupt by design. As a foreigner (even though someone who grew up partly in Europe), I would never want to set foot in Italy again, any more than I would in Iran.
 
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BLNadeau MDG #amandaknox didn't even know what 112 or 113 meant when #meredithkercher was murdered (same as calling 911)
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BLNadeau MDG finds it preposterous that #amandaknox and #sollecito would go 2 trbl of faking a break-in with rock, etc after murdering someone.
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BLNadeau @scottbalaam thanks for your compliment!
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BLNadeau MDG there are no traces in the murder room attributed to #amandaknox and #sollecito.
4 minutes ago

BLNadeau MDG: in the judge's reasoning crime dynamic not logical & does not correspond with the reasoning in Guede's conviction. #amandaknox
5 minutes ago

BLNadeau MDG tells jury to look at the original judge's reasoning and realize all the contradictions and doubts. #amandaknox
7 minutes ago

BLNadeau MDG says they never had the opportunity to interrogate Rudy Guede, the three were never questioned together. #amandaknox
8 minutes ago
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Hey!! I just thought of an important fact about the case!! ;)

If Amanda is a witch, how come she dressed up like a kitty cat on Halloween? She must have all sorts of cool hats and brooms and stuff.
 
DarkStar2011 said:
Sad to say, even if the result of this trial is an acquittal, I think the "justice" system of Italy has been revealed as hopelessly unfair and corrupt by design. As a foreigner (even though someone who grew up partly in Europe), I would never want to set foot in Italy again, any more than I would in Iran.
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DarkStar, I think you're right. I can't count the number of times that I've just been in disbelief about something or other the prosecution has been allowed to get away with.

It makes me shudder to think about all the time I spent in Italy, and in Perugia specifically, in my teens and early twenties, when I had no concept of the situation with their legal system there. Swanning about with my fair hair and blue eyes, having a smoke, getting drunk, having sex. If I'd known that these could be treated as evidence of murder....
 
Dougm said:
Hey!! I just thought of an important fact about the case!! ;)

If Amanda is a witch, how come she dressed up like a kitty cat on Halloween? She must have all sorts of cool hats and brooms and stuff.
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Or at least a mop and bucket. ;)
 
pilot padron said:
Your ....errrr,, argument is given all the due consideration by me that it's depth and factual rebuttal deserves.
With over 66,000 posts and counting, may I suggest your "useless" description might best be applied to many here..... including your own.

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with 100 to one odds against me, I need nor pay particular attention to the ubiquitous pile on 'atta boys' here.
But fully understand why you usually find need to.
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I believe I saw where Poppeř put the odds of acquittal at 1% ¿¿¿
 
I'd like to join in... Frank Sfarzo's current piece is very moving, powerful and true. I try not to get emotional about it all, but it gave me thrills. Thank you, Frank!
 
bri1 said:
Onofarar,

BLNadeau Barbie Latza Nadeau
Press trying to square Comodi's comment that there is no extradition agreement between Italy and USA. Is there an accord?

If she really did say this, it either shows:
a) A deliberate and malignant attempt to mislead the jurors

or

b) A stupidity and ignorance so deep, that I wouldn't entrust the cleaning of my loo to this woman (or any of her colleagues).
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There's an extradition treaty, but unlike the European Arrest Warrant an American Court has a 'probable cause' clause. It must see probable cause that the person facing extradition actually committed the crime, I doubt that the mess o' pottage assembled against Raffaele and Amanda would suffice. I posted the relevant sections in a post to Alt about four months back, shortly after Judge Heavy's letter to President Obama was released.
 
Yogism is my favorite

RoseMontague said:
I believe I saw where Poppeř put the odds of acquittal at 1% ¿¿¿
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Not sure I would go so far as to share that percentage opinion from popper.
I do definitely admire not only his dedication to the Appeal events, but willingness to share them with all of us.
He has been extremely attentive to all the full press room feed of all the actual proceedings.
His factual background for his opinion therefore is definitely more impressive to me than "absolutely certainty of acquittal" expressed endlessly by others with much less foundation.

I have also noticed that very, very few (if any) of the other tweeters or people on the scene share the "its over" certainty also expressed endlessly here.
Surely you noticed even the very innocence leaning CBS Producer Castelfranco is far from "absolutely certain" of acquittal

Personally, I am still most strongly aligned with my childhood hero Yogi Berra:
"It ain't over until its over"
 
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MDG: Forensic biologist Stefanoni testified traces were blood despite conducting tests that showed negative for blood. #amandaknoxAVogt


Perjury in Perugia?
 
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