Continuation Part 3 - Discussion of the Amanda Knox case

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Murder aside for a second.

i'm interested to know what others think the punishment should be for lying to police during a murder investigation?

we know for a fact AK & RS did this. Thoughts?

You will find very few concede this yeti. Prepare for the "internalized false memory" mantra. No evidence, of course, but AK simply cannot tell a lie, according to many.
 
Murder aside for a second.

i'm interested to know what others think the punishment should be for lying to police during a murder investigation?

we know for a fact AK & RS did this. Thoughts?

I don't know that for a fact. Precisely what alleged lies are you referring to?

Whatever the punishment, one would hope police would be punished more severely for lying during a murder investigation.
 
Murder aside for a second.

i'm interested to know what others think the punishment should be for lying to police during a murder investigation?

we know for a fact AK & RS did this. Thoughts?


It's not possible for posters on an internet forum, from a variety of jurisdictions, to come up with a glib answer to that hypothetical. Even a court would require a lot of detailed consideration of the nature of the offence before deciding on a sentence.

Rolfe.
 
You will find very few concede this yeti. Prepare for the "internalized false memory" mantra. No evidence, of course, but AK simply cannot tell a lie, according to many.

ah yes the "false memories" "implanted memories" & "visions"

i'd give them 20 years just for the lies.
 
This article, and I believe another relating to it, is no more. Dead link. Something going on, I think.

It was white-on-black, in quite small print. I found it hard to read on the screen, and for that reason I copy-pasted the text into Word. The file was still open on my computer this morning, all present and correct, so I just clicked on "save".

Even if the Wayback machine didn't catch it, I did.

Rolfe.

ETA: Wrong, it hasn't gone. That link is still live. Funny, they're saying it's gone at PMF.net, and the link there seemed to be dead.... Ah, bad move, to think that a bunch of guilters got anything right.

What a great article that is, too! It's not surprising there's those who wish it had gone dead, that John Douglas was punished for his 'alarming' comments. I can just imagine what sort of 'explanations' they came up with while they thought that link was dead... :p
 
Whatever the punishment, one would hope police would be punished more severely for lying during a murder investigation.


My thoughts entirely. Police are apparently allowed to lie to suspects while questioning them. However, what happened here went a long way beyond that, from lying to Amanda that she'd tested positive for HIV to the lies Stefanoni told in court.

Rolfe.
 
Whats the Rai? The Judge is discussing with the prosecutor...Rai?

Break in court. Judge encourages Prosecutor Costagliola to see him in his quarters to discuss something on Rai. #amandaknox
 
My thoughts entirely. Police are apparently allowed to lie to suspects while questioning them. However, what happened here went a long way beyond that, from lying to Amanda that she'd tested positive for HIV to the lies Stefanoni told in court.

Rolfe.

police in every country lie to suspects when theyre "interviewing" them. Its the easiest way to catch them out. It happend to me in the UK . I didnt have a problem with false or implanted memories. No visions either.

I've said before i think my experience makes me biased. It wasnt hard becuase the truth is the easiest thing to say. But for them the truth seems incredibly difficult...i wonder why...
 
Murder aside for a second.

i'm interested to know what others think the punishment should be for lying to police during a murder investigation?

we know for a fact AK & RS did this. Thoughts?

if you're referring to the interrogation forget it, the police are the ones lying.

if you're talking about some inability to recall what exact time in minutes they had something to eat..forget it. meaningless.

if your referring to Steffanoni telling the court and Judges that the luminol wasnt tested for blood, but then later it was found out it was, or that the value of her sample was wrong in court, then yes Steffanoni should be charged with perjury.
 
if you're referring to the interrogation forget it, the police are the ones lying.

if you're talking about some inability to recall what exact time in minutes they had something to eat..forget it. meaningless.

if your referring to Steffanoni telling the court and Judges that the luminol wasnt tested for blood, but then later it was found out it was, or that the value of her sample was wrong in court, then yes Steffanoni should be charged with perjury.


implicating Lumumba. Then sitting in jail knowing full well Lumumba was innocent and not saying anything. It wasn't AK that got him out it was his alibi.

I'd give her another 20 years just for that
 
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police in every country lie to suspects when theyre "interviewing" them. Its the easiest way to catch them out. It happend to me in the UK . I didnt have a problem with false or implanted memories. No visions either.

I've said before i think my experience makes me biased. It wasnt hard becuase the truth is the easiest thing to say. But for them the truth seems incredibly difficult...i wonder why...


Because the police is convinced that the truthful story is in fact just a lie. And the method to break the accused is to give them the feeling that if they continue to tell this story (wich incidentally is the truth) everything will be horrible for them ("you will be thrown for thirty years into prison, never see your parents again", on other occasions; threats with death penalty or coming into a horrible prison, insinuating to the possibly of being raped there, stuff like that) the accused gets the impression that there is only one way; to confess. And that's exactly the mental state they want him in, the problem is only; it works with innocents just as well as with guilty ones.

In a situation like this it is not easy to tell the truth because the police is doing everything in their power to manipulate you into thinking that your future will be horrible if you continue to maintain your innocence, if you confess though, they can help you …

Other times people just want to get out of the terrible situation of being screamed at and accused for hours and simply don't realize in what sort of torment they are shifting themselves into that way …
 
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Two tweets said the prosecution had an objection based on something it had seen on Rai. A later tweet said Hellman invited Costagliola to his quarters to discuss something on Rai.

No details given.

Perhaps it is only coincidental, but immediately after the Rai meeting the verdict was postponed until Monday.
 
implicating Lumumba. Then sitting in jail knowing full well Lumumba was innocent and not saying anything. It wasn't AK that got him out it was his alibi.

I'd give her another 20 years just for that


If in fact Amanda was nowhere near the cottage when Meredith was murdered, how did she know "full well Lumumba was innocent"?

Rolfe.
 
One of the things that I've wondered about is the destroyed hard disks.

What's up with that? There are only two ways to make a hard disk unreadable to the point that a specialty data recovery center couldn't retrieve data that I am aware of:

  1. Physically destroying the hard disk to the point that it is not technologically possible to recover data from the disks in the hard disk
  2. Running a program to repeatedly overwrite the data such that the data is obliterated.
Of course lots of things can make data recovery from a disk drive difficult, but making it impossible is a different animal. So what's going on here?

As usual I've just run in, started catching up with the posts and I'm quickly running out again. When I reply to posts in this manner then return home later and see the replies that came after I often feel embarrassed.

But here we go again...

The hard drives weren't totally destroyed.

The cops just refused to pay the money to get them copied or fixed. That's a fact.
 
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Two tweets said the prosecution had an objection based on something it had seen on Rai. A later tweet said Hellman invited Costagliola to his quarters to discuss something on Rai.

No details given.

Perhaps it is only coincidental, but immediately after the Rai meeting the verdict was postponed until Monday.


They seem to have cancelled the Saturday session entirely, as I read it. Maybe the prosecution wanted to object on the grounds that there's a big football match on TV on Saturday afternoon? :D

Rolfe.
 
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