Continuation Part 3 - Discussion of the Amanda Knox case

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It seems Costagiola rushes through the talking points a bit. I think he really wants to start the weekend today and have a free Saturday.
 
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Costagliola: The questions related to genetics wil be detailed by Comodi. The prosecution re-requests a new expert opinion that was rejected earlier by the court.
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Where is this announced? That would mean they really want to stall the case until Mignini gets his conviction confirmed :)
 
Let's not be hard on Barbie. After twitting "Lame attempt by prosecution to give cred to homeless curatolo as reliable witness in #amandaknox appeal." she's in for some more death threats from the furry friends.
 
bolint said:
Costagliola: The questions related to genetics wil be detailed by Comodi. The prosecution re-requests a new expert opinion that was rejected earlier by the court.
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A brilliant legal mind in action. Makes the same silly request from the same judge that denied this same request at the last hearing. What are the chances his request will be granted?! Zero.

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Giovanni Galati (the new chief prosecutor of Perugia) "fully supports" all the points raised by the prosecutors against the new expert report of C&V. It is baseless and lacks evidence.
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So Galati rejects what C&V were able to show on video to the court and to the world,Roco Girlandi requested an investigation of the prosecutors office surely this guy is given the two fingers to the Italian justice system
 
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A brilliant legal mind in action. Makes the same silly request from the same judge that denied this same request at the last hearing. What are the chances his request will be granted?! Zero.

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Clearly Hellmann will finish this appeal now, but the rejection will be one of the basis for the appeal to the Supremes.
 
Frank Sfarzo assauted and dragged away from the hearing by three cops,maybe that was the surprise the prosecution were talking about
 
andreavogt Andrea Vogt
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Prosecutor blasts spin making "everyone feel like parents of #amandaknox," urges jurors to imagine feeling like #meredithkercher parents.

I'm really losing my optimism about this trial ending in an acquittal :-(
Even prosecutors are using this cynical and false argument from emotion. If my relative was the one who'd been brutally murdered, I'd want the actual perpetrator caught and punished appropriately.
All the Kercher's anger should be directed primarily at Rudy Guede, who actually committed this awful crime, and secondarily at the police and prosecutors who have allowed Guede a much shorter than deserved sentence, and potentially allowed him an avenue of appeal.
My sympathy for Lumumba ran out months ago, and although I will always feel tremendous sympathy for the Kerchers and their terrible loss, I'm getting to the point where anyone supporting this farce is becoming culpable for its effects.
 
KeysToFreedom Free Amanda Knox
#amandaknox @injusticeinperugia @rollingstone SR Moorse tweets: Journalist Frank Sfarzo assaulted/hauled away by 3 cops tinyurl.com/3p9ymvx

WTF is going on?! Do they really think they can get away with this?
 
BLNadeau Barbie Latza Nadeau
Mignini also focusing on media's role in case laments interviews he's given, tells jury that it's their job to ignore the spin. #amandaknox

Now that the media is seeing the truth slightly more clearly, Mignini want jurors to ignore the 'spin'. Of course, before and during the first trial, when prosecutors and police were smearing AK and RS with the complicity of the media, that was a-ok.
The hypocrisy of these people absolutely astounds me.
 
BLNadeau Barbie Latza Nadeau
Mignini goes nationalistic, tells jury this is the Italian Republic, tells jury not to buckle under (implied)American pressure.#amandaknox

This is both pitiful, and worrying at the same time. Pitiful because of the (false) implication that American pressure comes from questioning of the actual 'evidence', not a blind or politically motivated support.
Worrying, because there is a fairly childish anti-americanism which is rife amongst some people in Italy, and worrying because of misleading comparisons (such as Vogt's in her recent article) with politically sensitive situations between US and Italy.
 
BLNadeau Barbie Latza Nadeau
Mignini says #amandaknox blamed Patrick #lumumba because he was a "colored man".

Understand, it's not the police who suggested Patrick's name, or who called him a 'dirty black'. Oh wait. The article where Patrick describes being racially abused and violently assaulted by the police is still available on the Daily Mail website, here: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-Lumumba-reveals-framed-Merediths-murder.html

Unbelievable, the cojones of this man. Bare-facedly lying in a court room.
 
Guys, sorry for the blitz- posting, but following the live tweets has me really riled. The idea that Mignini can get up in that court room and say those kinds of things is unbelievable to me.
Directing juror's to ignore media spin, whilst having a journalist arrested so that his words in court can't be critically discussed, is disgusting.
 
BLNadeau Barbie Latza Nadeau
Mignini cites supreme court's on #rudyguede that he acted together with others, including #amandaknox even tho supr ct. did NOT name Knox.

London John, of course has posted at length on this issue, and from my understanding of those posts, the Supreme Court in Rudy's case, held that the proceedings in Rudy's trial had been conducted legally, and the legal decisions made were sound. As far as I'm aware, the Supreme Court does not confirm or deny findings of fact in the lower courts.
 
Did the jury I wonder see Frank assaulted and hauled away,did any cameras see this happen,these people were stupid enough to film themselves mishandling the DNA collection they might have allowed the cameras of the world to film a journalist with the courage to report what is really happening in Perugia being assaulted and arrested,and this in my opinion would be a big mistake
 
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Clearly Hellmann will finish this appeal now, but the rejection will be one of the basis for the appeal to the Supremes.
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I don't think even Diana Ross can help the prosecution :p

But seriously...... there are no grounds for an appeal to the Supreme Court on those grounds - no matter how much Mignini might bluster something different. Barring any dreadful breaches of law by Hellmann or his court between now and the verdict, the prosecutors will have no valid grounds for appeal to the Supreme Court after the acquittals.
 
bri1 said:
andreavogt Andrea Vogt
by BLNadeau
Prosecutor blasts spin making "everyone feel like parents of #amandaknox," urges jurors to imagine feeling like #meredithkercher parents.

I'm really losing my optimism about this trial ending in an acquittal :-(
Even prosecutors are using this cynical and false argument from emotion. If my relative was the one who'd been brutally murdered, I'd want the actual perpetrator caught and punished appropriately.
All the Kercher's anger should be directed primarily at Rudy Guede, who actually committed this awful crime, and secondarily at the police and prosecutors who have allowed Guede a much shorter than deserved sentence, and potentially allowed him an avenue of appeal.
My sympathy for Lumumba ran out months ago, and although I will always feel tremendous sympathy for the Kerchers and their terrible loss, I'm getting to the point where anyone supporting this farce is becoming culpable for its effects.
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Don't confuse prosecutors' blatant appeals to emotion with the way that Hellmann and the court are looking at the case. In fat, I'd argue that the fact that prosecutors made such an appeal is indicative of the fact that they don't have sufficient evidential basis for their arguments.

CNN's Chance has already tweeted to just this effect, and he's absolutely correct. Nobody should be making references to the suffering of Meredith's family or even the brutality of Meredith's death as part of their arguments for the guilt of Knox and Sollecito. The two issues should be totally decoupled from one another if one is to make a fair, objective assessment as to whether Knox/Sollecito are guilty or not guilty. And the fact remains: based on all the evidence (or lack thereof) they should be - and, in my opinion, will be - acquitted by Hellmann's court.
 
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