Akhenaten
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Could the very high rate of mental illness in Europe be related to religion decline?
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Cheers, mate.
Mojo
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Well, there's this from page 3 of the thread:
And this from page 2:
welshdean
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Roadtoad
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Thanks. I'll re-read it. I'm trying to keep up, but it's tough on the road.
(We're in Spokane, WA, tonight, if anyone's asking.)
Joobz implied I said all strokes are cause by sin. That is just one of "many" inaccuracies about my positions that have been stated over the last year or so. In a way that encourages me because it shows me some skeptics are constantly forced to be inaccurate about my positions in order to appear to make an effective response.
Billy Graham has a simple definition of sin. It is anything contrary to the will of God.
If you don't like Billy Graham's simple definition, the Catholic church has a deeper definition of evil. The second paragraph alludes to mental suffering and is thus related to the thread topic.
From the Catholic Encyclopedia article on Evil
Evil, in a large sense, may be described as the sum of the opposition, which experience shows to exist in the universe, to the desires and needs of individuals; whence arises, among humans beings at least, the sufferings in which life abounds. Thus evil, from the point of view of human welfare, is what ought not to exist. Nevertheless, there is no department of human life in which its presence is not felt; and the discrepancy between what is and what ought to be has always called for explanation in the account which mankind has sought to give of itself and its surroundings. For this purpose it is necessary (1) to define the precise nature of the principle that imparts the character of evil to so great a variety of circumstances, and (2) to ascertain, as far as may be possible, to source from which it arises.
With regard to the nature of evil, it should be observed that evil is of three kinds — physical, moral, and metaphysical. Physical evil includes all that causes harm to man, whether by bodily injury, by thwarting his natural desires, or by preventing the full development of his powers, either in the order of nature directly, or through the various social conditions under which mankind naturally exists. Physical evils directly due to nature are sickness, accident, death, etc. Poverty, oppression, and some forms of disease are instances of evil arising from imperfect social organization. Mental suffering, such as anxiety, disappointment, and remorse, and the limitation of intelligence which prevents humans beings from attaining to the full comprehension of their environment, are congenital forms of evil each vary in character and degree according to natural disposition and social circumstances.
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/05649a.htm
From the Catholic Encyclopedia article on Evil
Evil, in a large sense, may be described as the sum of the opposition, which experience shows to exist in the universe, to the desires and needs of individuals; whence arises, among humans beings at least, the sufferings in which life abounds. Thus evil, from the point of view of human welfare, is what ought not to exist. Nevertheless, there is no department of human life in which its presence is not felt; and the discrepancy between what is and what ought to be has always called for explanation in the account which mankind has sought to give of itself and its surroundings. For this purpose it is necessary (1) to define the precise nature of the principle that imparts the character of evil to so great a variety of circumstances, and (2) to ascertain, as far as may be possible, to source from which it arises.
With regard to the nature of evil, it should be observed that evil is of three kinds — physical, moral, and metaphysical. Physical evil includes all that causes harm to man, whether by bodily injury, by thwarting his natural desires, or by preventing the full development of his powers, either in the order of nature directly, or through the various social conditions under which mankind naturally exists. Physical evils directly due to nature are sickness, accident, death, etc. Poverty, oppression, and some forms of disease are instances of evil arising from imperfect social organization. Mental suffering, such as anxiety, disappointment, and remorse, and the limitation of intelligence which prevents humans beings from attaining to the full comprehension of their environment, are congenital forms of evil each vary in character and degree according to natural disposition and social circumstances.
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/05649a.htm
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The Bible which has been around for thousands of years and is the greatest selling book of all time (by most accounts) would seem like a good place to look for the will and the laws of God.
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As good as any, to be sure.
http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/jim_meritt/bible-contradictions.html
Hans
Hans,As good as any, to be sure.
http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/jim_meritt/bible-contradictions.html
Hans
If youve not followed the other thread are you in for a treat now. All those contradictions are evidence the bible is true. If it were fiction they'd have made sure the story was internally consistent, or something...
Dave
Eta: I realised I missed your point but I'm going to leave that post to ridicule docs position still
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My highlight.
That is an interesting passage! So, thwarting a man's natural desires is an evil. So much for celibacy.Not strange they have all these paedophile scandals.
I wonder if the Catholic Church scholars actually read their own stuff.
Hans
Actually the Catholic policy on celibacy when it first began had more to do with economics than an aversion to sex. The church could save money if priests don't have to support a family, and they can also devote more time to their pastoral duties.
I doubt God was happy when His people the Jews probably got beat when they were slaves for 400 years in Babylon and Egypt.