Truthers - Let's talk U93 phone calls

twinstead said:
Since you are claiming that evidence was potentially falsified, it is up to YOU to get the "archival holding and reference number of the pathological investigation and body recovery from Shanksville".

Yea, I'm sure you don't care much one way or the other; this phone evidence is very much contrary to your position. You HAVE to ignore it or minimize its importance to you to protect your world view. The truth is, the phone calls are VERY important, but they are only a portion of the preponderance of evidence that points right to the commonly-held narrative.
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No, the phone calls are trivial.
 
little grey rabbit said:
Is this an American thing? As I said, I have never known anyone to have a safe. I think it is common in Australia to store your will with the Public Trustee (run by the state governments). Don't you have something similar in the US of A?
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Lol
 
little grey rabbit said:
Is this an American thing? As I said, I have never known anyone to have a safe.
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I've no idea if it's an American thing, but I think you may be misreading what "safe" means here. As someone mentioned earlier, it's not usually a big wall safe. In my case, both safes are simply portable fire-proof lockboxes, each about a foot square, give or take.


little grey rabbit said:
I think it is common in Australia to store your will with the Public Trustee (run by the state governments). Don't you have something similar in the US of A?
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I don't know. My will (each version) was prepared free by the military prior to my overseas deployments, but they offered no storage option.
 
Garrette said:
I've no idea if it's an American thing, but I think you may be misreading what "safe" means here. As someone mentioned earlier, it's not usually a big wall safe. In my case, both safes are simply portable fire-proof lockboxes, each about a foot square, give or take.


I don't know. My will (each version) was prepared free by the military prior to my overseas deployments, but they offered no storage option.
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Well is there an American here who does know?

I mean hunting around houses for hidden wills makes a great plot device in Victorian melodramas, but I would have thought it was rather inconvenient for most people.

Normally these situations are difficult enough for loved ones. Do most Americans rely on the last moment phone call to reveal will location and safe combination?
 
twinstead said:
Like I said: in order for you to hold on to your fantasy, they kind of have to be, right?
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Trivial when compared to absence of bodies at Shanksville and wonderfully preserved reclining "corpses" at the Pentagon.

It seems like that Mark Bingham's mother is inventing details of her particular call, but the question is trivial.
 
little grey rabbit said:
Well is there an American here who does know?

I mean hunting around houses for hidden wills makes a great plot device in Victorian melodramas, but I would have thought it was rather inconvenient for most people.

Normally these situations are difficult enough for loved ones. Do most Americans rely on the last moment phone call to reveal will location and safe combination?
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Many American homes have safes, fire safes, and lockboxes. As far as most Americans relying on last-moment phone calls, well obviously at least ONE american did. Since most safes and lockboxes at home are probably relatively easy to break in to, the phone call was probably a courtesy to make it as easy as possible for them.

Seriously. Cracking open a safe would be just one more thing to have to deal with in a very sad time. Your lame attempts at casting doubt on this one phone call are pretty telling to me. You have nothing.
 
little grey rabbit said:
Trivial when compared to absence of bodies at Shanksville and wonderfully preserved reclining "corpses" at the Pentagon.
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LOL whatever you say.

Tell that to the first responders who picked up bits and pieces of bodies at Shanksville. You are a CLASSIC denier. You use the same idiotic technique for your delightful holocaust denial. If a piece of evidence doesn't support your position, ignore it, trivialize it, or claim it's fake.

It seems like that Mark Bingham's mother is inventing details of her particular call, but the question is trivial.
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So Mark Bingham's mother was lying?
 
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twinstead said:
Many American homes have safes, fire safes, and lockboxes. As far as most Americans relying on last-moment phone calls, well obviously at least ONE american did. Since most safes and lockboxes at home are probably relatively easy to break in to, the phone call was probably a courtesy to make it as easy as possible for them.

Seriously. Cracking open a safe would be just one more thing to have to deal with in a very sad time. Your lame attempts at casting doubt on this one phone call are pretty telling to me. You have nothing.
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Right we seem to have consensus, most Americans send their loved ones on bizarre hunt the will chase around the house after they die.

what a truly bizarre and utterly unique country
 
twinstead said:
LOL whatever you say.

Tell that to the first responders who picked up bits and pieces of bodies at Shanksville. You are a CLASSIC denier. You use the same idiotic technique for your delightful holocaust denial.
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I would be more than delighted to have a look at the records left by the pathological investigative team.

But for mysterious reasons our brave debunkers seem reluctant to suggest where these might be held.

Perhaps scarred by their experience with the Pentagon corpse photographs. That was something of a flop, wasn't it?
 
little grey rabbit said:
Right we seem to have consensus, most Americans send their loved ones on bizarre hunt the will chase around the house after they die.

what a truly bizarre and utterly unique country
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What a truly bizarre and utterly unique debate technique. All in the name of trying to cast doubt on an inconvenient piece of evidence. You work very hard at your denial.
 
I don't know about any other American in this thread, but I keep copies of all important documents. I don't currently have a will, but if I did, trust me, I'd keep a copy of it. Whether or not I'd keep it in a safe is irrelevant; most sane people keep copies of important documents while originals are filed in a safe place (i.e. the courthouse, or with a lawyer or accountant). My mother kept copies of her will and every time she had to change it, she made sure she had a new copy. It wasn't kept in a safe, but it was kept in a lockable file drawer.

I keep copies of my tax returns and investment statements, as well as bills and statements for at least five years before I deem them no longer needed. When I make a will, I will request a copy of it to be kept in my personal records. This is not unusual, LGR; stop trying to make it so.

ETA: The practice of keeping copies of important documents, IMO, is to prevent unscrupulous people from taking advantage in the time of a family's grief; you have an independent verification of what the official document is supposed to say.
 
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little grey rabbit said:
I would be more than delighted to have a look at the records left by the pathological investigative team.

But for mysterious reasons our brave debunkers seem reluctant to suggest where these might be held.

Perhaps scarred by their experience with the Pentagon corpse photographs. That was something of a flop, wasn't it?
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It's not our job to do your research for you. If you want to claim the evidence is faked, the get your ass up and find out for yourself. Your idiotic claims are not my problem.

Your opinion is irrelevant.
 
little grey rabbit said:
Right we seem to have consensus, most Americans send their loved ones on bizarre hunt the will chase around the house after they die.

what a truly bizarre and utterly unique country
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You wanna include my country in that assessment rabbit? After all, my family have been known to put things under the floorboards.
 
Dash80 said:
You wanna include my country in that assessment rabbit? After all, my family have been known to put things under the floorboards.
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Dash, your family has the happy quality of doing anything that is convenient for any particular argument you wish to make at a point in time.
 
Yea, the very thought of people actually putting important papers and valuables in a secure box at home is ludicrous, isn't it?

I'll bet you can go to any department store just about anywhere on Earth and find a large assortment of home safes, fireboxes, and lock boxes. I guess only Americans buy them, though.

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