Debris removal specialist: Richard riggs saw melted beams, molten steel

[tjlance1]

The truther world-
9/11 was a conspiracy-

really? where's the evidence.
We don't need it, we just know it.

WTC 1, 2 and 7 were brought down by controlled demolition-
Really? Where's the evidence-
Watch youtube!

A missile hit the pentagon-
Really? Where's the evidence?
You can't see a plane in the security video.
What about the debris that proves a plane hit the pentagon?
Oh no, that's photoshopped. It was a lie.

and it just goes on and on and on..

 

[timhau]

How? Prove this.

It looks like liquid, no.

Yes, you can recognize a molten substance as something molten just by looking at it. Congratulations, you have now uncovered your first-ever fact! Molten stuff actually does look different from solid or gaseous stuffs -- because it's in liquid form! Nice going! Say goodbye to fact-virginity! Treat yourself to some milk and cookies!

Now as to recognizing what material that molten stuff is, that's a whole another problem...

 

[Dash80]

A) Lying/part of the cover up?
He does not lie. But if you believe he is lying, then you do believe in a conspiracy, isnt it?

B) Giving his expert opinion?

There is nothing important about his expertise, everybody with good eyes can see a melted beam.

C) Not qualified enough to know what he's talking about?

See above.

I wasn't asking about the steel, I was asking you about his explainations (like he says in the video, fire and intense heat).

Now apply the questions to HIS EXPLAINATION ONLY.

 

[newton3376]

It looks like liquid, no.

I asked you to prove or show me how one can identify the material.....and your reply: "No". In other words....you have no evidence.

So thats why a part of the 200 experts interviewed more than 1,000 people

Yes they did.....the eyewitness testimony is part of piecing together a coherent narrative of what happened....it does not stand alone.

no

In other words....you have no evidence.

no

In other words....you have no evidence.

no

In other words....you have no evidence.

 

[Marokkaan]

I wasn't asking about the steel, I was asking you about his explainations (like he says in the video, fire and intense heat).

Now apply the questions to HIS EXPLAINATION ONLY.

Why is the explanation of the cause of melting steel important?

I asked you to prove or show me how one can identify the material.....and your reply: "No". In other words....you have no evidence.



Yes they did.....the eyewitness testimony is part of piecing together a coherent narrative of what happened....it does not stand alone.



In other words....you have no evidence.



In other words....you have no evidence.



In other words....you have no evidence.

I asked you to prove or show me how one can identify the material.....and your reply: "No". In other words....you have no evidence.



Yes they did.....the eyewitness testimony is part of piecing together a coherent narrative of what happened....it does not stand alone.\


But first you said they are not interested in hearsay? hey thats strange??



In other words....you have no evidence.

No thats not true

In other words....you have no evidence.

No thats not true

In other words....you have no evidence

No thats not true

 

[newton3376]

But first you said they are not interested in hearsay? hey thats strange??

Going around and looking for evidence of explosives or incendiaries because someone said "I saw some molten stuff...." is acting on hearsay IN SPITE of a lack of any other credible evidence.

Including the totality of eyewitness testimony to corroborate and supplement the physical evidence is conducting a thorough investigation. I'm aware you likely do not comprehend the difference.

No thats not true

No thats not true

No thats not true

Then prove it or shut up.

 

[Dash80]

Marokkaan, well you seem to think it's important. What do you think molten steel means? Why is it important? Do you agree with Rigg's explaination?

 

[Marokkaan]

Going around and looking for evidence of explosives or incendiaries because someone said "I saw some molten stuff...." is acting on hearsay IN SPITE of a lack of any other credible evidence.

Including the totality of eyewitness testimony to corroborate and supplement the physical evidence is conducting a thorough investigation. I'm aware you likely do not comprehend the difference.

So a hearsay can be important for nist, or nist wouldnt interview 1000 people, am i right?

Then prove it or shut up.

No

Btw, are you angry you do realize you believe in the official conspiracy theory?

 

[Marokkaan]

Marokkaan, well you seem to think it's important. What do you think molten steel means? Why is it important? Do you agree with Rigg's explaination?

Maybe i have to repeat.

Why is the explanation from richard riggs about the cause of melting steel important?

 

[newton3376]

So a hearsay can be important for nist, or nist wouldnt interview 1000 people, am i right?

It's so difficult to get you to see the point....

Not only do I have to explain what I type....but then I have to teach you how to read things for comprehension. That makes it difficult to communicate. If I have to explain math, physics, or engineering PLUS I have to teach you how to read and extract the meaning of what you read.....well it makes it difficult.

I can't teach you Reading 101, Math 101, Physics 101, and Comprehension 101 all at once.....you will have to try harder I'm afraid.

No

That says it all doesn't it?

Btw, are you angry you do realize you believe in the official conspiracy theory?

There is no "Official Conspiracy Theory"...that is a term truthers made up to attempt to put their theories on an equal playing field with the commonly accepted physics of what actually happened.

There were real, physical events that ACTUALLY happened on 9/11...and most people accept that reality and call truthers "conspiracy theorists". The reason most people label you truthers "conspiracy theorists" is because they think you are NUTS, CRAZY, MORONIC, ETC ETC ETC.

So that label is all yours.....not mine. People call you crazy because you ARE crazy.

 

[MRC_Hans]

Maybe i have to repeat.

Why is the explanation from richard riggs about the cause of melting steel important?

Why is the melting steel important? (answer that, and you will have answered your own question).

Hans

 

[Dash80]

Maybe i have to repeat.

Why is the explanation from richard riggs about the cause of melting steel important?

YOU created the thread, YOU posted the video. Why is it important? I repeat, what do you think the molten steel means? Do you agree with Rigg's explaination? Clearly you don't or you wouldn't have bothered creating the thread.

 

[Marokkaan]

It's so difficult to get you to see the point....

Not only do I have to explain what I type....but then I have to teach you how to read things for comprehension. That makes it difficult to communicate. If I have to explain math, physics, or engineering PLUS I have to teach you how to read and extract the meaning of what you read.....well it makes it difficult.I can't teach you Reading 101, Math 101, Physics 101, and Comprehension 101 all at once.....you will have to try harder I'm afraid.

Instead of writing this bull#*(@ you could admit it, or explain it.

That says it all doesn't it?

No

There is no "Official Conspiracy Theory"...that is a term truthers made up to attempt to put their theories on an equal playing field with the commonly accepted physics of what actually happened.

There were real, physical events that ACTUALLY happened on 9/11...and most people accept that reality and call truthers "conspiracy theorists". The reason most people label you truthers "conspiracy theorists" is because they think you are NUTS, CRAZY, MORONIC, ETC ETC ETC.

So that label is all yours.....not mine. People call you crazy because you ARE crazy

yes it is, its the same with the conspiracy to kill osama bin laden. they did this in secret. The whole world did not knew about this secret, even when a lot of people worked in this project.

Only the difference is, they admit it in the second and not in the first.

 

[Marokkaan]

YOU created the thread, YOU posted the video. Why is it important? I repeat, what do you think the molten steel means? Do you agree with Rigg's explaination? Clearly you don't or you wouldn't have bothered creating the thread.

Yes

The molten steel? I think molten steel solid steel that turns in liquid.

Do I agree? Another amazing question....

For one thing im sure, i totally agree, he saw melted beams.

The molten steel i can not agree or disagree. One thing is for sure, he saw a liquid substance.

So i have to ask you again.

Why is the explanation from richard riggs about the cause of melting steel important?

 

[Oystein]

...everybody with good eyes can see a melted beam...

A "beam" is a solid thing.
Something "melted" is a liquid thing.
A "melted beam" is either not melted, or not a beam any longer.

So did he he see a beam, or did he see something liquid?

 

[Dave Rogers]

Ah, the good old truther tactic of trying to convince us his theory's true by refusing to say what it is. Has that ever worked?

Dave

 

[excaza]

Why is the explanation from richard riggs about the cause of melting steel important?

Because it completely demolishes the truther canard of "melted steel must mean thermite." You might want to coordinate with your peers before you start attacking their assertions.

Why do you deem this supposed molten steel so important?

 

[Marokkaan]

Because it completely demolishes the truther canard of "melted steel must mean thermite." You might want to coordinate with your peers before you start attacking their assertions.

Why do you deem this supposed molten steel so important?

lolll

 

[newton3376]

Instead of writing this bull#*(@ you could admit it, or explain it.

I've already explained it Marokkaan. If you did not understand it then that is your problem, not mine.

I have a limit of how much I'm willing to explain things to people who are crazy, stupid, or just too invested in a belief to see differently.

In your case I think it's the third option...which means there is hope of you eventually coming out of it.

No

yes it is, its the same with the conspiracy to kill osama bin laden. they did this in secret. The whole world did not knew about this secret, even when a lot of people worked in this project.

Only the difference is, they admit it in the second and not in the first.

Actually.....not many people worked on the project.

They conducted training runs at BAF in Afghanistan and it was a CIA operation....DEVGRU was attached to the CIA SOG for the mission. Members of those two groups likely knew about the operation early on, but the whole operation was kept very close hold in the States and in Afghanistan.

Most special Operations guys had no idea it was going on.....even those with close friends in the SOCOM world. Everyone did a very good job of keeping the operation under wraps.

That's not a conspiracy Marokkaan....it's a special mission using two small groups that are both good at keeping their mouths shut. They are good at doing so because bragging about it can compromise the mission objective and also endanger the operators lives. Please do not ever compare DEVGRU, SOG, CAG, or any such group with your asinine conspiracy theories.

It's insulting to the members of those groups.

 

[excaza]

lolll

That's all you've got? Really?

The quintessential truther line is that office fires cannot be hot enough to melt steel, therefore there must have been thermite present if molten steel is present. Since you are taking this man's word as gospel, that means you believe that office fires can get hot enough to melt steel, and that no thermite would be required.

Is logic really so difficult for truther idiots?