Rather than watch Saggy repeat the same names over and over, perhaps it's time to throw a more substantive list of witnesses on the table. What follows are the names of eyewitnesses who have at one point or another been discussed by Holocaust deniers since the days of Rassinier, in what passes for "print". The list is not necessarily complete, but it covers probably most of the people that deniers have discussed. There are more than 200 names.
Unfortunately, nowhere have deniers discussed all of these witnesses together. And by discussed I mean something more than "they're all liars" or "they were all tortured" if they were Nazis. As can be seen, the list includes Nazis, Ukrainians, Poles, Frenchwomen, German opponents of the Nazis, and Jews of many different nationalities. They talked to the Soviets, the Poles, the British, the Americans, the French, the West Germans; or they published their memoirs all over the world, over a period of many decades.
There are of course 10s of 1000s more witnesses, but as this set of 200+ have been hand-picked by deniers themselves, they are a perfectly reasonable sample for discussion.
The list even includes witnesses who are dismissed by the mainstream. Unfortunately there are only six of those, but hey, with hard work and perseverance, a revisionist could surely come up with a nice, convincing, book-length case against all the witnesses, and prove (I mean really prove) that all of them were liars, not simply offer a handwave and a vague sweeping assertion.
I repeat: these are witnesses various deniers have discussed. So this isn't inflicting any kind of mental cruelty, like mentioning the 1400 witnesses interrogated before the Frankfurt Auschwitz Trial, or the 400 that actually appeared on the witness stand. No, it's not much more than 200 witnesses.
German– Auschwitz (24)
Rudolf Höss, Hans Aumeier, Maximilian Grabner, Friedrich Entress, Johann Kremer, Horst Fischer, Josef Kramer, Fritz Klein, Franz Hössler, Konrad Morgen, Hans Münch, Richard Baer, Walter Dejaco, Henry Storch, Hans Stark, Erich Mussfeldt, Pery Broad, Richard Böck, Karl Hölbinger, Josef Erber, Oswald Kaduk, Nowak, Kurt Prüfer, Karl Schultze
German,Collaborator –
Belzec, Chelmno, Sobibor, Treblinka (24)
Franz Stangl, Josef Oberhauser, Kurt Gerstein, Wilhelm Pfannenstiel, Hermann Höfle, Franz Suchomel, Willi Metz, Otto Horn, Erich Bauer, Alfred Ittner, Gustav Wagner, Franz Hödl, Erwin Lambert, Heinrich Barbl, Heinrich Gley, Werner Karl Dubois, Karl Alfred Schluch, Erich Fuchs, Vassily Pankov, Mikhail Razgoniaev, Ignat Danilchenko, Pavel Leleko, Walter Piller, Bruno Israel
German – Other (27)
Hermann Göring, Ernst Kaltenbrunner, Dieter Wisliceny, Adolf Eichmann, Wilhelm Höttl, Richard Korherr, August Becker, Walter Rauff, Erich von dem Bach-Zelewski, Friedrich Jeckeln, Kurt Becher, Oswald Pohl, Gerhard Maurer, Kurt Schmidt-Klevenow, Anton Kaindl, Hermann Pister, Ilse Koch, Alois Hoellriegel, Paul Waldmann, Oscha Otto Hoppe, Theo Schölen, Otto Ohlendorf, Ostubaf Haensch, Paul Blobel, Hermann Graebe, Eberhard Wetzel, Victor Brack
Auschwitz – Sonderkommandos (21)
Miklos Nyiszli; Filip Müller, Sigismund Bendel, Szlama Dragon, Henryk Tauber, Henryk Mandelbaum, Andre Lettich, Stanislaw Jankowski; Milton Buki, Maurice Benroubi, David Olere, Dov Paisikovic, Joshuah Rosenblum, Josef Sackar, Saul Chasan, Jaacov Gabai, Eliezer Eisenschmidt, Leon Cohen, Shlomo Venezia, Salmen Lewental, Lejb Langfus
Auschwitz – Other (59)
Rudolf Vrba, Alfred Wetzler; Ada Bimko, Janda Weiss, Yehuda Bakon, Mordechai Lichtenstein, Liebermann, Regina Bialek, Sophia Litwinska, Ruth Elias, Klari Weiss, Primo Levi, Kitty Hart, Fania Fenelon, Olga Lengyel, Eugene Heimler, Elie Wiesel, Czeslaw Mordowicz, Arnost Rosin, Benedikt Kautsky, Moshe Garbarz, Rajzla Sadowska, Erwin Valentin, Lucie Adelsberger; Adolf Rögner, Erwin Bartel, Wilhelm Wohlfahrt, Bruno Baum, Hermann Langbein, Ella Lingens-Reiner, Walter Petzold, Otto Wolken, Marie-Claude Vaillant-Couturier, Jerzy Tabeau, Stanislaw Klodzinski, Stanislaw Chybinski, K.J., Franciszek Gulba, Jolan Holthost, Michal Kula, Seweryna Szmaglewskaya, Ludwig Nagraba, Zenon Rozanski, Josef Koczorowski, Ludwig Rajewski, Roman Taul, Feliks Mylyk, Zygmunt Smuzewski, Jiri Beranowsky, Eugeniusz Motz, Bogdan Glinski, Josef Vacek, Czeslaw Glowaki, Wojciech Barcz, Ludwig Banach, Wieslaw Kielar, Kazimierz Smolen, Henryk Porebski, Hugo Breiden,
Belzec, Chelmno, Sobibor, Treblinka (52+)
‘Szlamek’, Mordechai Zurawski, Michal Podchlebnik, Shimon Srebrnik, Jankiel Wiernik, Samuel Rajzman, Elias Rosenberg, Abraham Bomba, Richard Glazar, Samuel Willenberg, Chil Rajchman, Szymon Goldberg, Tanhum Grinberg, Shalom Cohen, Abraham Goldfarb, Oskar Berger, Abe Kon, Moszeks Laks, Maniek Plakiewicz, Stanislaw Borowy, Oscar Strawczynski, Israel Cymlich, Rudolf Reder, Chaim Hirszman, Alexander Pechersky, Leon Feldhendler, Zelda Metz, Esther Rab, Stanislaw Szmajzner, Moshe Bahir, Itzak Lichtman, Eda Litchman, Aizik Rottenberg, Yehuda Lerner, Dov Ber Freiberg, Ursula Stern, Chaim Engel, Hershl Zukerman, Kurt Thomas, Thomas Blatt, Jacob Biskubicz; Stanislaw Kozak, Jan Piwonski, Jan G., Eugeniusz Goch, Edward F, Maria Daniel, Tadeusz M, Michal Kusmierczak, Eustachy Ukrainski, Jan Sulkowski, Jules Schelvis
KZ inmates (3)
Franz Blaha, Margarete Buber-Neumann, Benen Anton,
Other (10)
Zygmunt Klukowski, Paul Roser, Jan Karski, Erich Heubaum, Rozalka Schelewna Schier, Emanuel Ringelbum, Chaim Kaplan, Hersh Smolar, Heinz Rosenberg, Herman Kruk
Deluded Witnesses (2)
Moshe Peer, Irene Zisblatt
Lying Witnesses (2)
Martin Gray, Herman Rosenblatt
False Witnesses (2)
Benjamin Wilkomirski, Misha Defoncesca
I'm quite sure that Saggy and co won't be able to muster up the energy to even mention more than a few of these names in any future post (unless they copy and paste from the above), so probably the best use is to gauge how far Saggy and co fall short of managing to discuss what other deniers have discussed.
Let's call it an even 200, although there are actually more on the list, for convenience's sake. Thus, a Clayton Moore "Zisblatt" post scores 0.5% on the Rev-o-Meter, whereas Saggy's handwaving little list of seven names scores 3.5% on the same scale. A Dogzilla post waffling about Goering or Kaltenbrunner would similarly score 0.5% on the Rev-o-Meter, unless he managed to discuss both, in which case it'd be 1%.
As no revisionist, not even the loftiest guru, has ever produced a work that discusses all 200+ witnesses, at least Saggy and co can console themselves by knowing that Butz, Rudolf etc aren't actually much smarter or scientific than they are. Ah well.
