Merged April Gallop / Gallop lawsuit thrown out / Appeal denied

Clayton Moore said:
The government says AA was negligent during incident X and AA agrees that it was negligent during incident X. You and your child were injured during incident X. What are your options? What is your obligation to yourself and your child?
Does your obligation change if you know the government and AA are lying?

Do you go the wrong way on a one way street when all the other roads are flooded out?
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Milk it for all it's worth then fleece the rubes.
 
Clayton Moore said:
The government says AA was negligent during incident X and AA agrees that it was negligent during incident X. You and your child were injured during incident X. What are your options? What is your obligation to yourself and your child?

Does your obligation change if you know the government and AA are lying?

Do you go the wrong way on a one way street when all the other roads are flooded out?
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1) Your option in that case is to recover that obligation from AA.

2) No. You can either accept that AA is liable, or prove that they are lying. Either / or -- not try to recover the obligation twice.

3) Invalid analogy. You cannot go the wrong way if you know that other roads are available. Either / or, again.
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So, William Veale now has a lawyer (Richard Levitt of Levitt & Kaizer) acting for him to respond to the second Show Cause order that was made against him, and the fellow has filed a response to same. Veale also apologizes (sort of) to the court in this one for his intemperate remarks in the appeal.

I'll get the docs up as soon as I can, hopefully either tonight or tomorrow.
 
It may be that I'm tired, but I've lost track. How many decisions are we waiting on? Sorry to impose again, dear Goddess, but could you give us a summary?
 
I'm sorry, I've been busy and I haven't been able to get the most recent docs posted yet, but I'll get to that as soon as I can. They're quite amusing, really.

Orphia, there are two show-cause orders outstanding. The first is an order against Gallop and her lawyers jointly and severally to show cause why they ought not have to pay $15K in sanctions for bringing a frivolous appeal, and the second is a similar order against Veale personally to show cause why he should not have to pay an additional $15K in sanctions for bringing that ridiculous petition for rehearing maliciously and in bad faith. Those are the two decisions we're waiting on. :)
 
LashL said:
I'm sorry, I've been busy and I haven't been able to get the most recent docs posted yet, but I'll get to that as soon as I can. They're quite amusing, really.

Orphia, there are two show-cause orders outstanding. The first is an order against Gallop and her lawyers jointly and severally to show cause why they ought not have to pay $15K in sanctions for bringing a frivolous appeal, and the second is a similar order against Veale personally to show cause why he should not have to pay an additional $15K in sanctions for bringing that ridiculous petition for rehearing maliciously and in bad faith. Those are the two decisions we're waiting on. :)
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Thanks LashL.
 
A very informative article about April Gallop in today's Washington Post:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...ns-skeptical/2011/08/10/gIQAUtQDGK_story.html

“All I’m doing is asking questions. When you walk out barefoot and you don’t step on any plane parts. . . .”
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Suing Cheney for an inside job is asking questions?

But 10 years on, Gallop says confusion about what support agencies would and wouldn’t cover has left her deeply in debt and with no income other than her pension and the spotty child-support payments she receives from Elisha’s father, a soldier. Everything else is pending: settlements from lawsuits, disputed back pay, a star-crossed application for a VA self-employment grant.
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How much would a pension be?

And money? Well, she needs money. She is clipping coupons and going to midnight sales at the PX at Richmond’s Fort Lee and waiting on payoffs that are always a few more documents away.

Gallop joined a class-action lawsuit that accused Riggs Bank of laundering money for the terrorists, and another that named pages of defendants around the Muslim world, including Bin Laden. Both were dismissed.

She is in the process of settling a suit against American Airlines. On instructions from her attorney, she won’t discuss it. But she does not step around the incongruity of suing for damages over the plane that she contends did not hit the Pentagon.

“If there are claims out there that these things took place that day, the airlines are liable,” she says. “If they are liable, I’m one of the victims. I have to do that for my son.”
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So the suit against American Airlines still isn't settled? That's news.

It took her months to find an attorney willing to go to the top, to try to get a vice president, a defense secretary, a Joint Chiefs chairman at the table for sworn discovery.

William Veale, a former public defender from Walnut Creek, Calif., and a founder of the Center for 9/11 Justice, agreed. They filed Gallop v. Cheney in 2008.

The suit asserted that the story about a hijacked plane hitting the Pentagon “is false,” that the defendants were “complicit” in the attacks because they wanted to create conditions that would allow them to reassert “U.S. military power abroad, particularly in Iraq, the Persian Gulf, and other oil-producing areas.”

Gallop says she isn’t sure about all the claims in the suit that bears her name. The lawyers wrote them.

“I can’t say I absolutely agree with everything in the lawsuit,” she says. “But I do think the case should be allowed to get to discovery.”
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Isn't signing the lawsuit saying you agree with it? Perjury, anyone?

What a very sad woman. :( Read the full article, and you'll get a sense of how paranoid she is, too.
 
An interesting read. Thank you, Orphia.

April Gallop is a tragic but conflicted figure. She is at the same time one of 9/11's greatest victims, and one of its sleaziest opportunists.

Her actions are very much that of a professional victim. She tells a sad story and receives tens of thousands of dollars in donations, but seems to live a comfortable suburban life, with figure skating lessons and dinner at Noodle Company. She has attached her name to an endless string of lawsuits and other attempts to get free money, with little regard for their merit. The article mentions no job, or any real attempt to get one.

On the other hand, having to rescue your newborn from a terrorist attack would take a mental toll on anyone. Yeah, she's paranoid, but I'd be paranoid too if my desk exploded one morning. And she handles her son in a way that suggests that pulling him out of Pentagon rubble may have overclocked her maternal instincts.

It's clear she is not evaluating things rationally. For one thing, she seems to have an overly short-sighted view of the attack: "I didn't step on any plane parts"... "the engine should have landed in my lap"... "I thought it was a bomb attached to my computer"... it's not all about you, lady. She seems not to understand that the Pentagon attack was large enough to leave evidence beyond her field of vision.

But thousands of other people also witnessed horrible things on 9/11, and none of them has put forth anything as stupid and self-serving as Gallop v Cheney.

But again -- the sympathy needle moves back and forth a lot in this case -- she clearly calls out for help:

"Lord, help me make sense of this."
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That what she seems to need, someone to help her make sense of it all.
What she got instead was "Lawyer for 9/11 Truth" William Veale, all too eager to turn her stress-confused worldview into a frivolous and expensive lawsuit. Which he persists with, even after the jumbo-sized legal smackdown documented previously in this thread.

According to the article, Gallop thinks it will pay off someday (cha-ching!) Veale's refusal to tell her the case is dead (or perhaps his inability to see that it is) is giving her false hope. So in some way she's being victimized again. She's banking on a windfall that isn't coming. But she's not calling any of these frivolous lawsuits off, and is apparently filing new ones. So in some way she's once again wasting other people's time and money in hopes of a check.

April Gallop's status as both a victim and a perpetrator are deeply intertwined. But at the end of the day, it is her name on these lawsuits, and adults must be held responsible for their own actions.
 
The haters here are disgusting.

No plane parts.

No kerosene fuel fireball literally burning to crisp everything inside the building where the "PLANE" hit?

How did Ms. Gallop and her child survive?

A person's child is a person's first concern.

How does one mother and a child survive when the screws are turned unfeelingly against her? Them?
 
Clayton Moore said:
The haters here are disgusting.
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Yes they are. You should try and stop being one of them.

No plane parts.
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A lie.

No kerosene fuel fireball literally burning to crisp everything inside the building where the "PLANE" hit?
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Another lie.

How did Ms. Gallop and her child survive?
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The fickle finger of fate, just like the many others who managed to survive the attacks that day.

A person's child is a person's first concern.
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Finally, something that we can agree upon.

How does one mother and a child survive when the screws are turned unfeelingly against her? Them?
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What screws are being turned against her? She filed a lawsuit that was utter rubbish and the courts told her as much. Any screws being turned against her are the screws of her own making. She is finding out that her own actions or decisions may have consequences that she won't like. Welcome to the real world honey.
 
“I can’t say I absolutely agree with everything in the lawsuit,” she says. “But I do think the case should be allowed to get to discovery.”


Orphia Nay said:
Isn't signing the lawsuit saying you agree with it? Perjury, anyone?
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WTF?


“I can’t say I absolutely agree with everything in the lawsuit,” she says. “But I do think the case should be allowed to get to discovery.”


Who agrees completely with freaking anything?

50% of the people in NYC want a new investigation.

50% of the people in NYC want a new investigation.


Are they paranoid?
 
Clayton Moore said:
“I can’t say I absolutely agree with everything in the lawsuit,” she says. “But I do think the case should be allowed to get to discovery.”




WTF?


“I can’t say I absolutely agree with everything in the lawsuit,” she says. “But I do think the case should be allowed to get to discovery.”


Who agrees completely with freaking anything?

50% of the people in NYC want a new investigation.

50% of the people in NYC want a new investigation.


Are they paranoid?
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Discovery in this particular case is just fishing and a waste of the courts time and resources. They didn't show any cause to go forward but they did show that they relied upon crazy people to base the lawsuit on.

I also highly doubt that 50% number. They couldn't even get enough valid signatures on a petition a year or so back to get the question put in front of the NYC voters and that required number of valid signatures was well below 50% of the people in NYC.
 
http://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...-skeptical/2011/08/10/gIQAUtQDGK_story_2.html


And then it did happen, and since then she has wondered, “Where was the plane?” The scene is still vivid in her nightmares: rubble, yes, but no aircraft wreckage; smoke and flames, but no jet-fuel inferno.

“I was 50 feet from the impact zone,” Gallop says. “The engine should have been in my lap.”
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50 freaking feat away from a plane that

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Su-fa10-pvs

2 minutes and 16 seconds in



Oh wait the Pentagon plane was only a 757.
 
Again. The fickle finger of fate. Some people die from tripping over their own feet while walking down an empty sidewalk while others survive a skydiving accident where the parachute never opens. Fickle finger of fate.
 
Sam.I.Am said:
Discovery in this particular case is just fishing and a waste of the courts time and resources. They didn't show any cause to go forward but they did show that they relied upon crazy people to base the lawsuit on.

I also highly doubt that 50% number. They couldn't even get enough valid signatures on a petition a year or so back to get the question put in front of the NYC voters and that required number of valid signatures was well below 50% of the people in NYC.
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Fishing expedition? So what?
 
Clayton Moore said:
Fishing expedition? So what?
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"They did "It" but I don't know what "It" is or even have a shred of evidence about whatever "It" is. Make them tell me everything about anything in the hopes that I might find out something." is never going to fly in a court of law, nor should it.
 
Ms. Gallop is delusional and, sadly, she's likely to turn her child into a fruitloop, too, if she keeps up her never-ending quest for more payoffs instead of getting on with her life.
 
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